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Post by vicky on Jun 3, 2021 11:20:39 GMT
I was given the entire box set of The Tudors for the birthday before last and still haven't even watched all of the first disc!
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Post by Miranda on Jun 3, 2021 11:22:37 GMT
The execution scene in Wolf Hall had me holding my breath. It was brilliantly done.
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Post by marion on Jun 3, 2021 11:24:25 GMT
Actually I too have the box set but have never bothered to watch them, and I certainly missed bits of the original show when it aired. Not that you need to see it all to follow the plot! I am currently on series 4. Katherine Howard is doing my head in! Actually when they did the execution of Thomas Cromwell in series 3 I had to hide behind a cushion!
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Post by vicky on Jun 3, 2021 12:42:39 GMT
Actually I too have the box set but have never bothered to watch them, and I certainly missed bits of the original show when it aired. Not that you need to see it all to follow the plot! I am currently on series 4. Katherine Howard is doing my head in! Actually when they did the execution of Thomas Cromwell in series 3 I had to hide behind a cushion! Mine was given to me by my daughter who is an historian. She told me to just ignore the made up or mangled history and enjoy it as a piece of good fun but I remember finding that very hard which is why I think I jumped ship so quickly. I must try harder!
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Post by bidiein on Jun 3, 2021 13:11:17 GMT
I enjoyed The Tudors although they should have recast Henry between wives 3 and 4 - when inaction and weight gain had made him a million miles from the dashing King of his youth. Bit the wives were all well portrayed and the historic facts were portrayed, even if it was in a sometimes Dynasty/Dallas method.
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Post by marion on Jun 3, 2021 18:01:30 GMT
For shame, Bidie. Recast JRM?!😱 What are you thinking?
Watching episode 2 I noticed they had scotch eggs in their feast. Do they date back to Tudor times?
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Post by bidiein on Jun 3, 2021 18:06:32 GMT
Marion, I know he is gorgeous but I don't think he was even lightly padded let alone in a fat suit! The distaste wives 4, 5 & 6 felt about him physically was hard for viewers to understand.
(Years ago I saw a historic drama about a Sultan who kidnapped a young British woman and her efforts to escape. The Sultan was played by Omar Sharif at his most gorgeous. Many viewers felt his biggest problem would be women tunnelling IN rather than out...)
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Post by vicky on Jun 3, 2021 18:29:29 GMT
You certainly wouldn't have caught ME trying to escape from Omar!
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Post by geometryman on Jun 4, 2021 5:41:19 GMT
I found this a bit underwhelming to start with, but warmed to it and in the end thought it wasn't a bad effort.
It was a bit like a 3-act play, with each episode having its own distinct mood which was quite well established and built - the middle one of the three being the best, for me.
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Post by bidiein on Jun 4, 2021 7:14:59 GMT
I am glad I stuck with it. Jodie was excellent and commanding as Anne, yet vulnerable as she fought for her daughters safety.
It was like a stage play - and once the viewer got used to that, it was enjoyable viewing.
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Post by vicky on Jun 4, 2021 7:15:05 GMT
Overall I found it a disappointment. I think the decision to focus so much on Anne resulted in it being flat and sketchy with no real feeling of the machinations that went on behind the scenes to ultimately bring her to the scaffold. Each step towards that appeared to come out of thin air. There should have been more about the other personalities involved. Even the king never really came to life for me.
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Post by marion on Jun 4, 2021 11:36:34 GMT
I agree with you about the thin air aspect, Vicky. I would have expected someone like Anne or her fellow Boleyns (is her father actually in this? I haven’t watched the third one yet.) would have had at least some idea of what was going on and the danger she was in. The king has been very much a cypher for me so far, as has Cromwell. He seems really weedy. Jodie may be fantastic in the role, but this direction has left her to carry the whole series with little support.
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Post by beverley61 on Jun 6, 2021 19:14:44 GMT
It's hard to say if they knew whether anything was going on. Just the week before the arrest Ann and Henry had been on a short tour staying at houses and were reported to be happy and jolly together.
I don't think Henry was part of any plan at that point. I think others were working against Anne and when they told Henry of her affairs he believed them. He was ready to believe anything to get a son and that he was being cursed and she had used witchcraft was easy for him to believe. He knew he had gone against religious teaching to marry her in the first place and Henry was very religious.
I also think she expected, as did most others that she would be divorced and sent away to a convent. She would have agreed to it, but the charges that were brought against her were heinous. Still, she was an anointed Queen;and he never crowned another wife, many felt it was a step to far to execute her.
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Post by Miranda on Jun 6, 2021 20:09:04 GMT
Didn't Jane come from a wealthy and powerful family?
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Post by linseed on Jun 6, 2021 20:13:00 GMT
Yes I think the Seymours were wealthy and influential
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