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Post by geometryman on Jun 10, 2021 10:44:10 GMT
Finally a date for S4!
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Post by goodhelenstar on Jun 12, 2021 10:17:41 GMT
Mm. For me this show has jumped the shark and the interest now is seeing how many more ways there are for June to continue getting away with behaviour that would get anyone else in Gilead killed. But I'll watch, of course!
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Post by Netz on Jun 12, 2021 21:15:10 GMT
I think I'll be abandoning ship this time around. My interest was waning for the last series, and it was so long ago that I've forgotten what happened. Plus I'm not really in the mood these days for bleak times in TV shows - there's enough of that in the real world!
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Post by Miranda on Jun 12, 2021 21:27:12 GMT
How far past the books are they? I would imagine that Murdoch wrote a complete story so whatever is going on now is well past what she imagined.
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Post by linseed on Jun 12, 2021 21:29:50 GMT
The book was series one. It’s not a long book. After that they have just extended the story of the characters in the book. The book ends with you not knowing if Offred has escaped and just hope she made it.
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Post by Miranda on Jun 12, 2021 21:31:20 GMT
Ah! So there was room to extend it? Seems like they are suffering from 'one series too far syndrome'.
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Post by linseed on Jun 12, 2021 21:34:51 GMT
Yes, it’s open ended (so far as I remember), and the final chapter is 100-200 years in the future at an archeological conference when they are digging up the remains of Gilead and finding her story in the form of messages and tapes.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Jul 13, 2021 20:22:08 GMT
Anyone still watching? This week's laugh-out-loud moment for me was June and Janine jumping into a tanker full of milk with no knowledge of what it was – could have been acid, or petrol, anything really. Then they walked around for quite some time in their milk-soaked clothes that had remarkably dried with no stain and presumably no smell!
It's difficult to see where this is going – life outside Gilead but within America seems pretty bleak and I wonder why that would be when Canada is right next door and seems to be free and prosperous. I thought the war that they refer to from time to time is between Gilead and the rest of America, but you'd think there would be international aid and I always assumed Gilead wasn't very large. Perhaps what we saw is only the border area where the fighting would be at its most intense.
Serena's a little madam, isn't she – seriously thinking that Rita was her friend. But I was a bit disappointed that Rita didn't challenge her openly but instead sneaked off to deliver her news to Fred. It was however lovely to see her enjoying her meal of sushi!
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Post by marion on Jul 13, 2021 20:37:50 GMT
Yes I'm still watching! I actually thought I had posted about it, 😀. I was surprised that it was as bad as it was because I thought Gilead was smaller. The frontline seems to be Chicago, but whether California and Texas, say, are still themselves I dont know. It has been quite good I think but I am finding June quite difficult. I mean it is not surprising given what she has been through but she is rather a bossy boots isnt she? Has the 14 year old Commander's wife been killed after the safe house was raided? I am beginning to think they may be extending this a bit too long so they had to find another area to widen the action a bit. It was good to see Janine's back story. That nurse at the abortion clinic! I too sat watching wondering about the smell of milk on the clothes. I couldnt understand why they kept their handmaiden headgear on either.
Now who is the father of Serena's baby. I thought Fred was sterile. And if not, and if the women can conceive, why are they only having sex through the ceremony with handmaids? I cannot remember seeing Serena having sex with anyone. Its not Nick's is it? 😂😂
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Post by geometryman on Jul 13, 2021 22:50:02 GMT
I'm still watching. That whole business of the milk tanker was daft I thought. June managed to find a drain valve at the bottom of a long tank underneath metres depth of milk, with zero visibility....
I didn't notice any reference to her this week. Last week Nick told June she was "safe in custody", before the raid on the Murrows' place which captured the other handmaids.
Good question! I thought in Gilead all women except handmaids were sterile (and, from earlier series, other countries were even worse off) - obviously that isn't true if Serena is now pregnant, or else there's something different about the air in Canada! How far along is she? I also thought it was established that Fred was sterile. There was that guy who was interested in her when she came to Canada on a visit a couple of series ago - has he been around recently, since the Waterfords' arrest in Canada?
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Post by linseed on Jul 14, 2021 6:35:27 GMT
Yes I thought it was very lucky the milk container had interior lighting! And that it was only milk! In Gilead I think the women are blamed for being sterile when in fact it’s the men who have been fighting in the war and been subject to radioactive fallout. There are whole areas in the former America that have been wiped out by this.
In the book Serena is a whole lot older and probably menopausal.
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Post by marion on Jul 14, 2021 10:19:14 GMT
Oh yes, the interior lighting!!! That was funny.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Jul 14, 2021 17:02:56 GMT
Yes, I think it's right that the women, as usual, got the blame when there was blame being allocated for sterility. It was assumed Fred was sterile and I imagine they had not had sex in a while as things didn't really go according to plan for Serena when Gilead was founded. According to this adaptation they were a loving couple pre-Gilead but really not thereafter. So their tryst en route to Canada, without the stress of life in Gilead, was productive. Which in turn means, I suppose, that Fred could be Nichole / Holly's father after all. Gosh, it's complicated!
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Post by pearl06 on Jul 14, 2021 18:42:54 GMT
I have stopped watching! Much too gloomy and not enough Nick!
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Post by marion on Jul 21, 2021 11:25:54 GMT
Nick popped up again in Sunday’s instalment. I can’t understand Commander Lawrence’s game at the moment. I thought he was supposed to be at worst pragmatic and at best a good guy, but he wanted to bomb everyone last week! I think they have to end this soon. It seems to be getting nowhere and we do need some developments in a drama!! It’s not a Beckett play after all.
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Anymore to come?
