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Post by pandaeyes on Nov 16, 2020 11:53:07 GMT
Tuesday (17th) to Thursday(19th) at 8 pm.
Dr. Xand van Tullenken, Rakshi David, and John Sergeant follow the spread of the 1665 pandemic week by week. John gets made up as one of the plague victims. Just what we need during a real pandemic.I will be watching out of morbid curiosity.
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Post by linseed on Nov 16, 2020 15:09:24 GMT
Yes I’m going to record this
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Post by pandaeyes on Nov 18, 2020 10:50:52 GMT
Fascinating look at a pandemic that struck over 300 years ago. Apparently there is still a form of this plague in the world today. Now believed to have been spread by fleas rather than just rats. The make up on John was very realistic, especially his 'gangrenous' nose. In 1900 there was an outbreak of Bubonic plague in Glasgow.
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Post by geometryman on Nov 18, 2020 13:18:41 GMT
Not rats at all, if I understood correctly - just human body lice (especially) and human fleas. The Black Death (similar plague to the 1665 one) was always blamed on rats and they've suffered from a bad press ever since - they should be given a public apology and a free pardon!
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Post by beverley61 on Nov 18, 2020 22:04:00 GMT
Bubonic plague flares up around the Mongolia area regularly. It is treatable nowadays but you still need to get help quickly.
There were cases in Northern China just before this pandemic started with several people taken to hospital and some flown to Beijing. I have wondered whether the concern over the outbreak distracted them from what was happening in Wuhan.
Probably didn't, and the Chinese did report the cases as it is an internationally notifiable disease.
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Post by marion on Nov 20, 2020 11:28:55 GMT
I watched part one yesterday and thought they did it well. I felt quite queasy at various points! I was also amazed at how often it recurred and that the first and second waves lasted so long. It was all rather unsettling.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Nov 20, 2020 11:57:47 GMT
I didn't much care for John Sergeant dressing up – touch of the Lucy Worsleys – but thought the presentation of statistics and spread of plague was well done and truly frightening. Unlike Covid, it seemed to die down as quickly as it arose, perhaps because as there was no treatment, victims died quickly and anyone physically weak would certainly have died. But as we know, there have been a number of outbreaks of plague through the centuries, which isn't very encouraging.
I already knew the story of Eyam, but it made grim viewing all the same. And how far-sighted was their parish priest!
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Post by geometryman on Nov 21, 2020 7:06:17 GMT
I found it an interesting mini-series, with some surprises - their procedures such as painting with whitewash to kill bacteria, and using a sulphurous fumigation process to kill fleas and other insects, were just as effective as modern ones.
I knew the Eyam story too, having visited the village (some decades ago now!) and taken in those walled graves of Hancock family members and other "touristy" spots such as boundary stones where food etc. was left and which nobody crossed in either direction.
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Post by marion on Nov 21, 2020 8:13:26 GMT
I have never watched any of the programmes this Dr. Xand presents with his brother, but I thought he was excellent. At least John didn’t dress up a lot or spend much time in the makeup, unlike Lucy Worsley. The things they deployed to combat plague were very interesting. I thought the whole team worked well (even though they were never onscreen together) but there wasn’t one of the three segments that I wanted to press the FF button. I had heard of Eyam but have never been there.
An unpleasant subject but a jolly good programme.
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Post by linseed on Nov 22, 2020 20:39:21 GMT
Just caught up on this earlier this afternoon. Very good program/mini series. I have been to Eyam some years ago when I was on holiday in the Peak District. Also love anything Dr Xand presents.
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Post by yankee on Dec 8, 2020 20:13:12 GMT
Not rats at all, if I understood correctly - just human body lice (especially) and human fleas. The Black Death (similar plague to the 1665 one) was always blamed on rats and they've suffered from a bad press ever since - they should be given a public apology and a free pardon! There was that episode of M*A*S*H where there was an outbreak of hemorrhagic fever in the camp. Frank Burns was catching and killing rats. When Hawkeye and BJ asked him why, he said because the rats were spreading the fever throughout the camp. Hawkeye and BJ just shook their head and said no, its NOT the rats. Its the fleas and ticks on the rats that spread the fever. And when you kill the rats, the fleas and ticks jump off the rats an onto people. Frank of course caught the fever. Rats have always been around and often captured and killed. Either as a pestilence or as a food source. Both easy ways to spread a plague.
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