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Post by marion on Mar 21, 2018 10:59:09 GMT
I enjoyed this a lot and thought it held together very well. I thought it was Kate wot dunnit!!!! Oops.
I am very puzzled re Cassie as I thought she ŵas fathered by Duncan when he had an affair with Jimmy's wife who left Jimmy for Duncan. I assume I have that completely the wrong way round. If she was the product of Duncan's marriage to her mother, who left Duncan for Jimmy, wouldn't she call Duncan Dad?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 11:02:22 GMT
I can’t remember if she calls Jimmy Dad, does she? Perhaps she was very young when her mother and Jimmy married so she’s been brought up to think of him as her father.
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Post by lindenlea on Mar 21, 2018 11:43:39 GMT
I can explain how the relationship between Cassie, Jimmy and Duncan has been presented in the TV series - not sure if it's exactly the same in the books as I haven't read them.
Duncan and Fran were married and Cassie is their daughter. They split up when she was a baby, due to Duncan's behaviour. Fran got together with Jimmy, they married and raised Cassie from a young age (on the mainland). Fran died and Jimmy returned to Shetland with Cassie. In the first series she was rebuilding her relationship with Duncan, who had since remarried. She calls Jimmy (her stepdad) Dad, and she calls Duncan (her father) Duncan. Duncan has always been a bit of a "lad" and has also been involved in some questionable business deals. By series three Jimmy and Duncan had resolved most of their issues and were almost co-parents - although Jimmy is still Dad.
I hope that doesn't add to the confusion!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 11:57:20 GMT
No it makes it clear, as I thought about Jimmy being ‘dad’.
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Post by sootycat on Mar 21, 2018 12:12:02 GMT
What a sad ending for poor Tommy.
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Post by marion on Mar 21, 2018 12:41:25 GMT
Thank you very much, lindenlea.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Mar 21, 2018 15:09:46 GMT
There was a lovely moment last series when Cassie saying goodbye to both of them at the airport. She called 'Dad' and they both turned round. Earlier still, first series probably to set the scene, Jimmy was explaining to someone and said 'Duncan's her father. I'm her Dad.' So I think if Cassie is talking to Duncan she'll call him Dad but she refers to him as Duncan.
Apparently in the books Cassie is a young child of 7 or 8. I imagine they made her older so that she would have more interaction and be more interesting as a character. Now that they've moved beyond the plots of the books I guess it doesn't matter how old she is.
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Post by bethb63 on Mar 21, 2018 16:41:01 GMT
Forgot to mention, I very much liked Tosh’s speech to Thomas about not letting the bitterness of the past taint his future. I hope that indicates that she now feels able to let go of her own bitterness.
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Post by geometryman on Mar 21, 2018 17:49:45 GMT
I enjoyed it, and I was going for Kate too! I wasn't surprised at who it was though, but I thought the motive would be jealousy rather than fear for her own life at the hands of her abusive husband. However Sally's murderer came as a complete surprise, shock even.
So all the Norwegian stuff was basically a big rød sild. I supppose it helped to move Tosh's personal story on. Good news about a fifth series - I expect she'll still be there on Shetland for that.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Mar 21, 2018 18:01:08 GMT
Yes, as was the man killed at Først energy and Jo's attack. But the format of a police procedural requires red herrings so we shouldn't be surprised. I didn't find Drew credible as Sally's killer, given his behaviour immediately afterwards and that moving outburst at the police station which turns out to have been a complete fabrication. There was no trace of subterfuge. That was a bit disappointing for me but other than that I loved it, as I have all of them.
Yes, I imagine Tosh will still be there – good for the actress and also good for Tosh, who is surely better off on Shetland than in Glasgow, where she hails from, or Edinburgh, where she had a transfer offer. On the other hand if she wants promotion further on in her career (after her meteoric rise to DS) she will have to go somewhere where there is more action than the odd murder!
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Post by geometryman on Mar 21, 2018 18:24:01 GMT
In this series, Shetland has a far higher murder rate per head of the population than real-life Glasgow! - 15 times as many, I calculate.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Mar 21, 2018 18:42:10 GMT
Well, yes, like Oxford or Midsomer. It's curious that all the crimes are murder. No one ever steals a car, or burgles anyone, or vandalises the local community centre. I know the crime rate is low in the Highlands and Islands, but they can't all be squeaky clean, surely!
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Post by linseed on Mar 21, 2018 22:08:06 GMT
Stealing a car is probably quite difficult in an island community where the only way off is the car ferry! But yes, you’re right, no minor crime.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 22:48:37 GMT
I suppose minor crimes wouldn’t be handled by Jimmy etc.
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Post by beverley61 on Mar 22, 2018 12:33:21 GMT
But they could do a fraud case for a change or something around smuggling. They could kill men and not have quite so many vulnerable woman being killed or beaten up. They could look at more links with Norway etc. Have they ever done a 'Viking' murder e.g. a modern killing but in a pagan style.
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