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Post by MekWeDweet on Jul 12, 2016 19:09:52 GMT
Is on now. I always find this compulsive viewing.
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Post by Gargleblaster on Jul 13, 2016 6:24:13 GMT
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Post by Gargleblaster on Jul 13, 2016 6:36:49 GMT
Is on now. I always find this compulsive viewing. I always find this type of programme disturbing, pitting children against children urged on by pushy parents. Why not just accept the fact that you might have an intellectually endowed child and allow him/her to lead as normal a life as possible, allow them to be children?
The problems these children face in life is difficult enough. They have difficulty in interacting with other children of their own age Some years ago (in the 70s I think) there was a programme on the BBC and also a book (The Children on the Hill by Michael Deakin) , about a family that lived in Wales and the parents decided that they should home school their three children, two boys and a girl. The problems the children faced were chronicled. One of the boys was a mathematical genius, the other boy turned in to a concert pianist and the girl was too young to have formulated her life.
The mathematician had a particularly difficult life. Beyond the book I have no idea what happened to them. It would be interesting to know.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 6:38:08 GMT
I must catch up - I usually watch this with my jaw slightly dropped. Some of the parents are really quite cruel IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 6:49:17 GMT
It will make them unbearable
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 9:16:55 GMT
My nephew was an extremely intelligent child, but not pushed at all by his parents. If he showed an interest in something they provided him with what he wanted to pursue it, but if he lost interest then they put all that stuff away.
They were summoned by the head teacher on his second day at primary school and were severely chastised because the teacher had found him READING to other children. They had no right to send a child to school already able to read and he would just have to learn again using the ITA system that was in place then! Didn't phase him at all - he coped with both systems as if it was the natural thing to do
The school wanted him to be moved to one which catered for "his type" of child. His parents refused on the grounds that he would lose out on a normal childhood and, in any case, he might slow up as he got older, which he did, but was still exceptionally bright. 5 A* at 'A' level.
Only thing was he didn't have an ounce of common sense until he was about 12.
He's a dentist now.
I hate this type of programme and the pushy parents. Obviously trying to live their own inadequate lives through their children.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 20:22:55 GMT
It is a good watch but agree that often the parents are trying to prove something to themselves rather than help their child (although there are exceptions). Christopher in lasts night's episode was a case in point, it was all about the father.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2016 7:21:13 GMT
I've caught up now.
First thoughts, what sort of a name is 'Mog'?
And Jack-Bob?
Most of the parents are GHASTLY. Poor Christopher.
Maximilien is delightful but how did he make it to the final 16 when he didn't get even one maths question right? Don't they get tested with an audience and cameras to make sure they can cope with the stress (or do the programme makers want one or two 'failures')?
I hate myself but shall be watching next week. (I'm gawping at the parents, not the children.)
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Post by MekWeDweet on Jul 15, 2016 8:17:06 GMT
There are quite a few quizzes/tests, especially this one, where I think it would be fairer (and possibly more interesting for the viewer) to give each contestant the same questions. E.g. I think the contenders in Mastermind should have the same general knowledge questions just like they do in the tie-breaker which doesn't happen very often.
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Post by MekWeDweet on Jul 19, 2016 19:19:28 GMT
I'm getting annoyed with this programme now. Firstly they are showing just the answers for some questions, why not the questions as well? Secondly, I'd rather see more of the kids doing the actual questions, and less of their parents.
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Post by vicky on Jul 21, 2016 13:56:20 GMT
I'm getting annoyed with this programme now. Firstly they are showing just the answers for some questions, why not the questions as well? Secondly, I'd rather see more of the kids doing the actual questions, and less of their parents. I agree. Too much jumping around from question to question, some with answers on the screen and some without. And didn't they used to show more contestants than the few they are concentrating on this year? I could do with seeing and hearing a bit less of the intensely irritating Mog and Christopher's equally irritating father. I think they have made a mistake too in going for a well known question master in Richard Osmond, who I find annoying anyway. There was nothing wrong with the guy who asked the questions in previous years....except I suppose, from Ch 4's point of view, he wasn't famous and so, they would reason, wasn't a draw for the viewers. There is something addictive about this programme which means I keep watching even though I find it worrying....not the competitive element which I have no problem with but the pressure to succeed at all costs or else be seen as a failure that some of the parents are applying to their children.
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Post by cali4ster on Jul 27, 2016 8:44:44 GMT
This is just a horrible, horrible programme. I'm not squeamish about 9 year olds being pitted against each other, and then blubbing their cold, black, hearts out when it goes wrong for them, but the execution and delivery of this is just horrible. I'm stunned that the RI got involved with this. I know they need the cash but, blimey, letting this crew through the door was desperate.
Was it explained why they have A4 laminated name "badges" hung around their necks? Give them gas masks they'll look like evacuees.
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1. This was recorded quite some time ago. I know this because the oak paneled café, sometimes seen behind the atrium café where the pushy parents are pumping their kids up, hasn't been part of the RI's demise for some time. 2. Christopher's mother was clearly not comfortable with all of this. Christopher's father is an utter d**k. 3. "Language expert" Mog explained Mandarin brilliantly but, unfortunately, while he wrote "You are good" in English and pinyin, in the Hànzì, he wrote "You are (a) woman". Good on him for giving it a go but if he doesn't know where he is going wrong he'll never learn properly. Also learning "I am..." and "You are...", in Mandarin, are day one, lesson one, which keeps him some distance from being an expert. I'd always encourage learning but the narrated BS doesn't help. 4. These children are not geniuses. They are drilled. If they remember something they have drilled, they'll progress, otherwise they'll just go out in the corridor and cry. 5. That being said, Rhea (correct name?) has clearly learned and understands the structure and origin of language. 6. It's wrong, I know, but I really wanted to punch Stephen. I'm a bad, bad, person.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 19:22:00 GMT
I hate this sort of programme. I feel that with all the means of recording available , the children who don't win will be reminded of their failure forever. I would not label any child a genius. The child would grow up having to justify the label. It could be the source of psychiatric problems in later life. I found out that two ladies who knew me in different spheres met and one said to the other that I was a genius! I don't know what to make of that. I am not special at all. It is a mystery!
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Post by MekWeDweet on Aug 2, 2016 19:14:29 GMT
Final: I don't like Stephen now, the way he talks about and treats his sister Georgia.
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