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Post by Geoffers on Nov 10, 2019 16:03:15 GMT
This is over the next 2 nights,and is probably inspired by Who Do You Think You Are on the other side,but even so could be quite fascinating.
Tonight and tomorrow at 9.
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Post by linseed on Nov 10, 2019 22:43:28 GMT
This has been really good!
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Post by Geoffers on Nov 11, 2019 12:12:43 GMT
Watched it this morning,it was good,and they talked about Ant's problem openly and honestly for the first time.
That must have taken a bit of a step.
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Post by yankee on Nov 11, 2019 21:45:02 GMT
A bit off subject, but has anyone tried one of those kits they sell at the pharmacy where you swab the inside of your cheek, stick in the tube and mail it off. In a week or two they send you a report of your DNA which gives you a pretty detailed idea of where your ancestors originated from?
Just wondering if it was a satisfactory experience.
(This is something maybe more important to us Yanks since many of our families have lived here for so many generations we really don't know if we came here from Ireland or England or Italy or Germany or who knows where. A lot of heritage was lost at Ellis Island.)
In the commercial advertising one of the kits they show this man and woman (brother and sister) who their whole lives thought they were German. Even performed in German cultural music and dance groups, wore lederhosen etc.
Turns out after the DNA tests they were nearly pure Irish.
They were good sports about it, but I could see how it might be devastating to someone else to find out they weren't what they thought they were. And all of this based on the results of a DNA kit from the corner drug store.
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Post by Miranda on Nov 11, 2019 22:08:34 GMT
A few years ago, there was a series about DNA and using it to find your ancestry. One woman who appeared was totally and absolutely convinced that her ancestors were English all the way back to Edward the Confessor. Who was King of England in the 11th century. Which is ok in itself but she regarded it as making her a better person than all the rest of us. Especially those whose skin was brown or black. No matter if they were third or fourth generation, she was still more English than them. She wasn't a nice woman. The sort that votes for the British National Party if you get my meaning.
Anyway, they tested her DNA and were there to film her when she got the results. Turned out her DNA was 75% German.......
I absolutely laughed my ass off. Her face was just.... there was such a mix of emotions - horror and disbelief and anger.... she basically said the test was wrong and it was impossible.
I still laugh when I think about it.
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Post by cakewalk on Nov 11, 2019 22:23:15 GMT
Never seen such a thing in my local chemist's. Seen it on FB, but wouldn't use it.
Edit - that was a reply Yankee
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Post by cakewalk on Nov 11, 2019 22:29:23 GMT
A few years ago, there was a series about DNA and using it to find your ancestry. One woman who appeared was totally and absolutely convinced that her ancestors were English all the way back to Edward the Confessor. Who was King of England in the 11th century. Which is ok in itself but she regarded it as making her a better person than all the rest of us. Especially those whose skin was brown or black. No matter if they were third or fourth generation, she was still more English than them. She wasn't a nice woman. The sort that votes for the British National Party if you get my meaning. Anyway, they tested her DNA and were there to film her when she got the results. Turned out her DNA was 75% German....... I absolutely laughed my ass off. Her face was just.... there was such a mix of emotions - horror and disbelief and anger.... she basically said the test was wrong and it was impossible. I still laugh when I think about it. There is a woman on the other board I use who would rather die than admit she is anything but British. Having seen her photo, I'm convinced she she has some Viking in her!  |
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Post by yankee on Nov 11, 2019 23:09:44 GMT
Or as the randy Norsemen from Minnesota and North Dakota say...Wouldn't you like to have some Viking in ya?   |
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Post by Geoffers on Nov 12, 2019 15:10:28 GMT
So there you have it,they are related, as we all probably are,if you think about it.
Interesting programme though,and you can see how their friendship gets through anything.
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Post by beverley61 on Nov 12, 2019 15:41:48 GMT
A few years ago, there was a series about DNA and using it to find your ancestry. One woman who appeared was totally and absolutely convinced that her ancestors were English all the way back to Edward the Confessor. Who was King of England in the 11th century. Which is ok in itself but she regarded it as making her a better person than all the rest of us. Especially those whose skin was brown or black. No matter if they were third or fourth generation, she was still more English than them. She wasn't a nice woman. The sort that votes for the British National Party if you get my meaning. Anyway, they tested her DNA and were there to film her when she got the results. Turned out her DNA was 75% German....... I absolutely laughed my ass off. Her face was just.... there was such a mix of emotions - horror and disbelief and anger.... she basically said the test was wrong and it was impossible. I still laugh when I think about it. Of course after she calmed down she might have realised that 75% German would probably make her a Saxon. Not all of these tests are very accurate. I find it strange that people can find out they are 40% Irish and then 25% Northern European, 20% Scandinavian!!! Surely if it can be accurate enough to pick up Irish it should be able to determine something other than Northern European - I mean what is that? |
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Post by yankee on Nov 12, 2019 16:00:35 GMT
That is my concern Beverly.
Truth be told my family knows not what our heritage is. My surname is a common German but our family records in the US go back to the early 19th century but not back to the "old country" so we really don't know which old country it is.
As I mentioned up thread, surnames were often changed by authorities at Ellis Island and what might have been an Irish or Scottish or Dutch name that sounded similar to a common German surname was changed and the new immigrant received a new name.
Think of the scene in Godfather II where the Ellis Island immigration worker felt young Vito Andolini's name was too much of a mouthful, but saw he came from the village of Corleone. So kid - now you are Vito Corleone. Welcome to America.
And even if my surname is correct, it could be German or Austrian or Swiss.
Do I want to even know for sure? And is one of these store bought kits accurate enough to base my beliefs in?
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Post by linseed on Nov 12, 2019 16:44:53 GMT
Those kits can only give you an idea, and you will still not know which of your ancestors in the last 150 years was German or whatever. So it will give you a general idea of where your family comes from in the last few generations, but for specific ancestry you would need to do the hard graft of birth, death and marriage certificates, and anywhere else that keeps records.
I did enjoy the program though, their friendship, the honest way they talked about mental health, and they did find genuine answers to some family questions.
But yes, I did wonder just how many people in Ireland could claim relationship to those kings and leaders of a millennium ago! Possibly half the country!
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Post by Miranda on Nov 12, 2019 16:49:56 GMT
I remember a programme where a comedian found out he was directly related to a pre-mediaeval Prince of Wales. Then he found out that so are most of the Welsh!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 16:51:58 GMT
If you’re European – or even descended from Europeans – you’re probably related to royalty. In 1999, the Yale statistician Joseph Chang showed that if you go back far enough – say, 32 generations, or 900 years – you’d find that everyone alive today shares a common ancestor. In Europe, where lineages have been closely studied, that ancestor was someone who lived just 600 years ago. A 2013 study from Peter Ralph and Graham Coop built on Chang’s research, proving that all Europeans come from the same people. More recently, Rutherford has demonstrated that virtually everyone in Europe is indeed descended from royalty – specifically from Charlemagne, who ruled western Europe from 768 to 814. Then there is this: The mathematical study of genealogy indicates that everyone in the world is descended from Nefertiti and Confucius, and everyone of European ancestry is descended from Muhammad and Charlemagne The Royal We |
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Post by Miranda on Nov 12, 2019 16:55:03 GMT
And if you're posh, you're definitely related to Royalty!
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Anymore to come?
