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Post by technicolour on Sept 3, 2022 7:58:59 GMT
Did anyone see this? I'm not a huge fan of the films but I like the LOTR books so gave it a go. I'm afraid I thought it very poor. Not sure where the massive amounts of money went, but not on acting and crucially not on story which is weak with terrible cliche dialogue.
I took the Prime free trial as the only way to watch it, but cannot sit through more than one episode so cancelled. The rigmarole involved in cancelling is an epic in itself!
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Post by marion on Sept 3, 2022 8:27:23 GMT
I think $250,000,000 went on the rights!
I haven’t read a good review yet, but I do get Prime so may have a quick look, if only for a laugh.
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Post by beverley61 on Sept 5, 2022 19:48:23 GMT
I think it was the other way around. I read that the Tolkien family got 750 million and it cost 250 million to make.
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Post by marion on Sept 6, 2022 8:20:37 GMT
Surely not! That’s well, unbelievable to me! 😵💫 All that for the bits he left as footnotes? Blimey.
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Post by Miranda on Sept 7, 2022 12:07:03 GMT
It's getting trashed on Twitter. And for some weird reason, Neil Gaiman is getting loads of trolls abusing him for it, even though it's nothing to do with him.  |
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Post by beverley61 on Sept 8, 2022 16:00:42 GMT
I think they wanted a ton because effectively somebody is making it up from this point.
It's like Beatrix Potter she left very strict instructions that until film techniques were good enough to represent her paintings, no films, adverts, or any moving image could be made. It was the 90s before the trust allowed that to happen and they charge a lot for the image rights.
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Post by Miranda on Sept 8, 2022 18:02:09 GMT
I found out how Neil Gaiman got involved. Basically loads of people complained about how many black actors there are in it. Including Elon Musk. Neil replied to him and all the Musk-bots piled on Neil.
Funny how they claim there were no non-white people in Middle Earth cos it's set in the Middle Ages but aren't too fussed about the potatoes.....
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Post by beverley61 on Sept 10, 2022 18:19:58 GMT
You always hear this. You can't have black people in historical dramas because they weren't here.
Except they were and in sufficient numbers to appear in paintings, pay rolls, court cases, church records, leases, merchant rolls and now with the advent of DNA testing they are in our ancient cemeteries. They visited our court,traded, arranged contracts, travelled, stayed to study our language and customs.
They came the same way most people did, on ships with the Romans, the Saxons, the Danes and onwards. They mixed and married and stayed and more came. They were even well known and remarked upon, famous and infamous.
That is why the onset of slavery when it happened was so much more evil,because the men who traded in slaves had traded with them as merchants and suppliers just years before.
People who say it's not historically correct just haven't bothered to check the history of black people in this country.
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Post by technicolour on Sept 10, 2022 19:43:34 GMT
In this case though, it is a fantasy with hobbits, elves and goodness knows what. They could all have been green and blue for all anyone knows with not white, brown or black among them.
Personally, I watched this without any idea about the casting or controversy and can't say I noticed the skin colours. Thinking back now though, there were an awful lot of white privileged elves.
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Post by beverley61 on Sept 11, 2022 17:02:54 GMT
That's true, I hadn't thought of it that way. I've only watched up to episode 4 - are there any elves that arent white.
My son is loving it. I'm finding it clichéd and well, unsurprising.
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Post by technicolour on Sept 11, 2022 19:44:55 GMT
I'm afraid I gave up after episode one for those reasons. I found the story thin and poorly written.
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Anymore to come?
