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Jan 14, 2021 18:31:47 GMT
Post by Miranda on Jan 14, 2021 18:31:47 GMT
But would a college style work on veteran players? I don't know how different the two styles are.
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Post by yankee on Jan 14, 2021 19:49:09 GMT
But would a college style work on veteran players? I don't know how different the two styles are. Its met with mixed results in the past. In terms of coaching style, college coaches tend to be very fatherly, authoritarian, inspirational, scholarly. They are helping young athletes segue from being teens living at home to young men out in the world, bodies still growing for the most part, maturity and football knowledge still growing. They tend to work closely with each and every player. Think of them as drill sergeants with raw recruits. Pro coaches tend to be like company vice presidents. They assume everyone is trained and capable and can immediately implement memos, new procedures, new projects with minimal overseeing. They tend to be narrow focused on their own play sheets and leave the "in your face" talking to the players to their assistants. They delegate. Think of them as commanding officers. In terms of philosophy, college offense and defense playbooks are a little more rudimentary. Lots and lots of read option running plays where the QB decision is made very quickly. Hand the ball off to the dive back, sprint out to the right any pitch to the wide back, keep for yourself. Passing plays where all receivers are in the QBs field of vision so if one is not open he can look to two, if two is not open he can look to 3 and all within the same field of view. No multiple receivers spread out all over the field on both sides and at various depths.
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Jan 14, 2021 20:32:10 GMT
Post by yankee on Jan 14, 2021 20:32:10 GMT
Jim Harbaugh is an example of a guy who was a star QB in college at Michigan, then had a pretty decent career in the NFL with the Bears, Colts and Ravens.
Then entered coaching at the college level and had a very good tenure as head coach at Stanford, then went to the NFL and was hugely successful as coach the 49ers. In 4 years they went to the NFC Championship game 3 times and made it to the Super Bowl once - where he of course lost to his brother who has been the head coach of the Baltimore Ravens seemingly forever! Then he went back to the college ranks and has been head coach at Michigan since 2015.
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Jan 15, 2021 11:09:52 GMT
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When you mentioned Jim Harbaugh, I thought I recognised the name. In 2018, Amazon Prime released All or Nothing: The Michigan Wolverines, in 8 parts. It covers their 2017 season. It starts in Rome where they go on a bonding trip and meet the Pope, and ends with the Outback Bowl.
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Jan 15, 2021 15:26:40 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 15:26:40 GMT
Amazon also have the 2015 Arizona Cardinals, the 2016 Los Angeles Rams, the 2017 Dallas Cowboys, the 2018 Carolina Panthers and the 2019 Philadelphia Eagles. Anything special I should be looking out for. Obviously these are more behind the scenes, and about how teams work; I suppose that the best thing to do is just watch and see.
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Jan 15, 2021 16:45:50 GMT
Post by yankee on Jan 15, 2021 16:45:50 GMT
This hour long documentary shows the sobering side of the NFL and how the violent nature of the game takes its tolls on the players bodies and makes young men old very quickly.
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Jan 18, 2021 14:00:49 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 14:00:49 GMT
This hour long documentary shows the sobering side of the NFL and how the violent nature of the game takes its tolls on the players bodies and makes young men old very quickly. That was utterly depressing. Is anything being done now, or is it just assumed that they are covered by any money that they got while playing? You often forget that sport often comes at a serious cost to its athletes; not just as a result of the actual game, but as a result of the play of some of the players.
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Jan 18, 2021 14:13:05 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 14:13:05 GMT
And, I am half way through the 2015 Arizona Cardinals. They give me a very different perspective on things, though how much is said for the camera, or is held back because the cameras are there, I have absolutely no idea. They certainly do not give you any idea of how actual coaching works.
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Jan 18, 2021 15:01:16 GMT
Post by yankee on Jan 18, 2021 15:01:16 GMT
This hour long documentary shows the sobering side of the NFL and how the violent nature of the game takes its tolls on the players bodies and makes young men old very quickly. That was utterly depressing. Is anything being done now, or is it just assumed that they are covered by any money that they got while playing? You often forget that sport often comes at a serious cost to its athletes; not just as a result of the actual game, but as a result of the play of some of the players. The players union has made great strides in the last couple of decades on getting better retirement benefits packages, including better medical insurance coverage and increased pension money, for players who retired in the 60's-90s when their original package included limited health care and more modest pensions. That documentary featured one older player (Jim Otto) who had a very long career in the NFL and another (Roger Stillwell) who played only 4 years and one of those years was lost to injury, so he really only played 3 years and yet they were both essentially ruined and still needed to work to support themselves. Otto did earn enough in his career to buy a string of fast food restaurants so financially he was better off. Stillwell, still a young man found himself in his 20s trying to figure out his next move to support his family while being a prisoner of his own body. Did you notice they both on the one hand warned against the physical toll of football and what it did to them. Yet Otto and his wife encouraged their son's college football career, and Stillwell had a part time job as high school football coach. So they both still loved the game and mentored others in their own play. Jim Otto is still alive at age 83. Roger Stillwell sadly passed away at age 54.
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Jan 18, 2021 18:41:08 GMT
Post by yankee on Jan 18, 2021 18:41:08 GMT
Deshaun Watson is very unhappy in Houston and requesting a trade.
The star QB was already unhappy with the organization last season when they traded DeAndre Hopkins - one of the best receivers in the NFL to the Arizona Cardinals for journeyman running back David Johnson (who spent most of this season injured).
After the Texans sacked the head coach and general manager, Watson thought ownership would consult him with regards to replacement hires to ensure a philosophy that best suits his skills set. The Texans did not.
There is some scuttlebutt that that Jacksonville might make a trade offer to Houston to take Watson - a proven star QB - and either trade the #1 pick in the draft or use it for someone other than Trevor Lawrence. First round QBs can sometimes be busts in the NFL - ie: Mitchell Trubisky who went at #2 in 2017.
Miami is another option as insider word is that the Dolphins are not that enamored with Tua Tagovailoa, who they took with the #5 pick of the 2020 draft. The Dolphins would presumably trade Tua and a draft pick to Houston for Watson.
The Jets are also said to be interested.
The idea of trading for Watson - and basically getting a first round draft pick QB - and then using your first round draft pick in 2021 to give him weapons in the form of a top receiver or a stud lineman to protect his blindside - makes a lot of sense. Its rare for a team to trade away a franchise QB who is still in the prime of his career. But the honeymoon is definitely over in Houston.
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Jan 18, 2021 23:40:01 GMT
Post by Miranda on Jan 18, 2021 23:40:01 GMT
Why are Miami not happy with Tua?
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Jan 19, 2021 0:00:37 GMT
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Jan 19, 2021 16:11:13 GMT
Post by yankee on Jan 19, 2021 16:11:13 GMT
So the final four are set.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers visit Green Bay Packers Buffalo Bills visit Kansas City Chiefs
Tom Brady will have to be in top form I think for the Bucs to pull it out over the Packers. Tampa does have a pretty stout defense and Tampa will want to try and have slow paced, running and short pass heavy drives to eat up clock and keep Aaron Rodgers on the Packers bench. If it becomes a high scoring game I cant see the Bucs winning.
Buffalo's high powered offense has cooled so far in the playoffs but they are capable of putting up 40 points or more and can go toe to toe with the Chiefs. If Patrick Mahomes doesnt clear concussion protocol and is not cleared to play, Buffalo has to become the favorite. Chad Henne played well in emergency duty in KC's tight win over the Browns, but giving the Bills time to game plan against him will give them a huge benefit.
Henne is a 12 year veteran but is a prototypical career clipboard holder with the baseball cap, emergency back-up and occasional spot starter. His first pass in the Cleveland game on Sunday was his first pass in a playoff game in his career.
The NFL is a bit of a PR predicament. On the one hand, they want to show the world how seriously they take the issue of concussions and head trauma. On the other hand, Patrick Mahomes is one of the best and most popular players in the league and the NFL desperately wants him on the pitch.
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Jan 19, 2021 17:05:59 GMT
Post by yankee on Jan 19, 2021 17:05:59 GMT
Its unofficially official that Deshaun Watson has played his last game as a Texan.
Watson's agent worked a "very player friendly" contract extension that allows Watson to demand a trade and he also has a no trade clause which lets him approve any trades. In other words, he can give the Houston bosses a list of teams he would agree to be traded to.
Miami is still looking as the best bet. Miami has the #3 and #18 picks in the first round of the 2021 draft. A deal would likely involve the Dolphins sending Tua Tagovailoa and one of their first round pics to Houston for Watson.
That would still leave the Dolphins with one first round pick and two second round pick as well as picks in the 3rd through 7th round to further stock the cupboard.
New England has snuck into the picture as another option. The Patriots have a ton of cap money that they can use as bait to lure Watson, promising to spend big on veteran free agents - something New England has always preferred over trying to restock via the draft.
Belichick could say "we will trade whatever draft picks Houston wants for you and we will work with you on which running backs we should target in the free agent market for you to hand the ball off too and which free agent receivers you want to throw passes to."
NY Jets Washington Football Team Denver Broncos are also said to be in the mix.
As are the San Francisco 49ers who are not happy with Jimmy Garoppolo's tendency towards season ending injuries. In three full seasons with the 49ers, Jimmy G has started only 25 of 48 possible games. He played only 3 games in 2018, a full 16 game season in 2019 when they went to the Super Bowl, and 6 games in 2020.
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Jan 19, 2021 18:05:51 GMT
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Post by Miranda on Jan 19, 2021 18:05:51 GMT
I did wonder how much more patience the Niners would have with Garoppolo so I wouldn't be surprised if they went in for Watson. I think the Phins are being a bit unfair with Tua. He had a bad injury and a really weird rookie year so they are being bit harsh, I reckon. Still, if that's how they are, he might be better off in another team that's willing to nurture him a bit more.
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