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Feb 9, 2021 15:24:16 GMT
Post by yankee on Feb 9, 2021 15:24:16 GMT
It was surprisingly uncompetitive.
Tampa Bay really dominated on both sides of the ball.
This is one of the problems with success+salary cap. You win and your players expect big pay rises when their contracts come due. Then you cap out and have to bargain shop for your reserve players.
Kansas City lost both of their starting offensive line tackles. Their replacements were not of NFL caliber and Patrick Mahomes was running for his life all game. When he tried to stay in the pocket he got banged around like a piñata. He was literally throwing the ball up for grabs and hoping for the best.
Meanwhile Tampa was grinding away on the ground, eating up huge chunks of yards and clock time with a powerful running game. And when Brady did throw the ball, it was cagey old men like Rob Gronkowski and Antonio Brown being open all game and looking like they had young legs.
Kansas City has some of the best offensive weapons in the NFL. Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, Clyde Edwards Helaire. But if you dont have the Clydesdale stud linemen creating holes and protecting Mahomes blindside you are going to struggle against the better teams.
It was shocking to see KC only able to put up 9 points. The first time in Mahomes career that the Chiefs didnt score double-digit points.
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Feb 9, 2021 17:24:46 GMT
Post by Miranda on Feb 9, 2021 17:24:46 GMT
Wow. Glad I didn't bother now.
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Feb 11, 2021 16:16:20 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 16:16:20 GMT
Watching the Super Bowl, now. What precisely is a screen pass?
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Feb 11, 2021 17:59:07 GMT
Post by yankee on Feb 11, 2021 17:59:07 GMT
A screen pass is when the quarterback drops back to pass as if its a standard passing play.
The running back stays in the backfield with the quarterback and pretends that he is going to help block the pass rushers.
The offensive linemen also pretend they are doing standard blocking on the defensive pass rushers.
But the offensive linemen and running back actually only feign blocking and actually let the rushers pass by them.
Once all of the defensive linemen have passed the offensive line and running back faking blocks, the quarterback lobs the ball to the running back who now has all 5 offensive linemen creating a blocking screen for him against the backside flank of the defense.
Sometimes its a wide receiver who just hovers at the line of scrimmage rather than running a pass route downfield.
Screen passes can be EXTREMELY effective because of the numbers mismatch. But the timing has to be perfect. If the QB throws the ball too soon, the defense will swallow up the pass catcher. If the QB waits too long to throw the ball he will be sacked by 4 or 5 guys at once.
Some great examples.
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Feb 11, 2021 18:02:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 18:02:03 GMT
Thanks, and thanks for the examples video.
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Feb 11, 2021 18:15:42 GMT
Post by yankee on Feb 11, 2021 18:15:42 GMT
My pleasure.
When it works well, the screen pass is one of the most exciting of all plays. But all 11 players have to be in perfect sync.
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Feb 11, 2021 18:35:38 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 18:35:38 GMT
It really helps to get both. What was happening was that I was hearing things in descriptions of the plays that I completely didn't understand; now it is beginning to distract, because I am now more aware of of these terms, and find myself saying "what's that?"
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Feb 11, 2021 18:42:37 GMT
Post by Miranda on Feb 11, 2021 18:42:37 GMT
I love a good screen pass! Unless it's against the Bears and then it's really annoying.
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Feb 12, 2021 16:01:40 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 16:01:40 GMT
Urban Meyer is currently at Clemson watching Trevor Lawrence throwing the ball. I assume that this indicative of intention in the draft. They are saying that he is due for surgery soon, isn't that significant?
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Feb 12, 2021 16:57:51 GMT
Post by yankee on Feb 12, 2021 16:57:51 GMT
Yes.
Under normal circumstances, there is an event called the "combine" which is a week long gathering of all 32 teams and the top 100-200 college draft prospects in Indianapolis.
The players undergo full physical examinations - including MRIs of any past injury areas. They measure every part of their body. Arm length, hand size, wing span, etc. They undergo IQ type of testing. They have psychological exams. They participate in fake press conferences where they are asked both football questions and controversial personal questions to see if they blow their cool.
They undergo a series of physical tests. Sprints, agility drills, strength drills. QBs have their throwing skills tested for both velocity, accuracy. Deep throws. Long throws. Receivers are tested for running routes, catching passes.
They attend meetings where they receive advise of choosing an agent (if they dont already have one), how to manage sudden wealth (some will be instant millionaires after being drafted after living their lives to that point in poverty), how to be wary of predatory young women looking for a relationship with a young millionaire or slick hustlers looking to scam you out of your money on phony investments.
Teams can also request private interviews with players.
But because of COVID-19 the Combine was cancelled for 2021.
So instead teams did scouting at the Senior Bowl (see above posts from last week) or they just arrange private workouts.
With a player like Trevor Lawrence its a given he is going to be drafted by Jacksonville so he probably wont be granting other private workouts.
But every other player is pretty much game for all teams to have in for a meeting and workout.
An off season surgery is concerning but not unusual. It depends what it is. If its a simple scope to clean out some cartilage in a knee, shoulder, or elbow its seen as nothing more than a visit to the dental hygienist for a deep cleaning of plaque.
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Feb 13, 2021 15:09:42 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 15:09:42 GMT
It is to do with a torn labrum in his left (non-throwing) shoulder, apparently.
What doctors are saying is that labrum surgery takes 9 to 12 months to completely heal, but you can quickly return to many activities. If you play a sport, such as tennis or baseball, that requires overarm motions, you may need to wait up to six months to regain endurance and speed in these motions. I would assume that would primarily be for the dominant (throwing) arm, but it must, surely, have an impact on what he is doing, at least in the medium term. When does the new season start?
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Feb 13, 2021 17:36:25 GMT
Post by yankee on Feb 13, 2021 17:36:25 GMT
The new season starts first week of September.
But there are a lot of other things in the lead up.
The draft is in April. Most teams have a week long or 10 day rookie orientation camp right after that.
Then normally a 2 week spring camp with both rookies and veterans to set the agenda for that season.
Then players are usually off from structured team activities until mid-July when they begin training camp and then play 4 warm-up friendlies against other teams from late July to late August.
However players have access to the team training facilities all year and many go in throughout the year to work out, train on their own, have physical therapy sessions to rehab past injuries or recovery from surgery.
The team medical and training staff will know exactly what he can and cannot do.
When it comes time for more physical practice sessions he will probably wear some sort of protective support harness on his injured non throwing shoulder.
Non throwing shoulder injuries are pretty common with quarterbacks as they instinctively turn their body so that shoulder takes the big hits and protect the throwing shoulder.
COVID-19 changed all this type of annual schedule in 2020 so 2021 remains to be seen.
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Feb 14, 2021 11:17:33 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 11:17:33 GMT
Why is spiking the ball not intentional grounding? It is very obviously intentional, and it is very obviously grounding. There is obviously something I don't understand that makes it special. What?
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Feb 14, 2021 14:08:31 GMT
Post by Miranda on Feb 14, 2021 14:08:31 GMT
Who is that is spiking the ball? What's the play?
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Feb 14, 2021 15:55:19 GMT
Post by yankee on Feb 14, 2021 15:55:19 GMT
Its actually a very good question.
When a QB spikes the ball intentionally to stop the clock, either because they are out of time outs or they are trying to save time outs it is in fact intentionally grounding.
However the spirit of the rule is that its a judgment call.
Intentional grounding is only called by judgment when its clear the QB is under duress and is grounding the ball to avoid a big sack.
When he grounds it immediately after the snap to get a free time out the refs allow it.
Prior to QBs spiking the ball right after the snap (I think it was Dan Marino who invented it in the 1980s) the QB used to just chuck the ball to towards the sidelines, intentionally well over the head of one of his wide receivers to stop the clock. Sail the ball into the bench.
I've only seen it happen one time (and ironically it was Dan Marino) where the QB faked as if he were going to spike the ball and instead ran a play and threw an easy touchdown while the defense had their guard down.
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