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Post by kabuki on Jan 11, 2024 11:06:21 GMT
Sometimes clients push software companies to roll out a new system. They are paying and don’t understand the complexity of implementing a new system. I wonder whether some the PO staff were like this.
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Post by beverley61 on Jan 11, 2024 12:36:44 GMT
It's shocking isn't it. But I don't think Ed Davey is off the hook. He was Post Office Minister and post office staff were writing to him. MPs were contacting him. a simple look at the annual accounts would show the massive increase of legal fees and recovery of money. Apparently that didn't even twig with him. He didn't even start an investigation or invite anyone from the PO Board to come and meet him.
Shambles.
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Post by marion on Jan 13, 2024 9:57:59 GMT
I was quite stunned by the”investigator” (using the term very loosely) who was on the stand the other day. Now I have done a few investigations in my time and along with, inter alia, copies of documents and interviews (polite interviews) we followed the accounting entries through the IT system. This malicious git seemed to have a different technique in that he simply accuses people of stealing, repeatedly and aggressively, and when that doesn’t work just starts calling them liars. So he doesn’t seem to investigate anything at all, he is just an accuser. And a bully. I hope people who know him are now fully aware of what he is.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Jan 13, 2024 10:14:31 GMT
He came across as not very bright, which may be his reaction to the situation he is now in. Horses for courses, whatever else we may think of Fujitsu they are not fools and they will choose people suited to the tasks they want to be carried out. This man does indeed appear to be a bully but he is an enforcer of someone else's policy.
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Post by monic on Jan 13, 2024 10:37:15 GMT
He was told there are allegations of fraud and money is going missing, computer records back up that there are thousands of pounds missing. Go and find out why and get them to pay it back. He could have been employed in bailiffs or sheriff officers in the Uk and fitted right in. As far as he’s concerned the person took money they shouldn’t have and it’s his job to get it back.
That was his skill set, it’s just his bad luck that his evidence was being presented the day after the PM finally agreed that the computer was wrong. The Post Office employed him for his skills as an investigator (bully) if his managers had any spine they’d have gone to Fujitsu and said there’s something wrong here.
As much as I disliked him we need to remember that he’s being put forward as bait for all the vigilantes out there and the CEO’s who got bonuses, pensions etc are the ones who really need to answer for this.
I want to know where the money went when sub postmasters repaid non existent shortfalls. I’ve dealt with petty cash and your 5p out, worst was £40 when someone lost a receipt but the sub postmasters were making up short falls of thousands of pounds. Who pocketed that money? Did the Fujitsu remote worker who logged on and was making transactions divert the money into their own accounts. It’ll never happen but an independent audit of Fujitsu needs to take place cos this seems like stealing on an industrial scale.
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Post by kakewalk on Jan 13, 2024 11:58:31 GMT
As far as I understand it, the money merely showed up as profits for the Post Office -partly the reason why Paula Vennells received her CBE.
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Post by linseed on Jan 13, 2024 15:50:53 GMT
It would have shown up in the Trial Balance of the accounts. But of course because it was a fake reading there wasn’t any real money to back it up, so at some point someone decided that rather than there being a glitch in the system providing fake readings, there must be actual people stealing money. So they went after the postmasters. The money they paid in would have gone towards “correcting” the fake reading, and of course increasing profits. But of course it was a glitch, there was no stealing and the money should be returned to the postmasters.
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Anymore to come?
