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Post by marion on Sept 17, 2024 17:50:20 GMT
I think this has finished airing now but it was in the Saturday night foreign drama slot.
I saw one episode last night and then three straight today! Sambre is a river in Northern France and it is the story of a serial rapist whose crimes first feature in 1988. Each episode is shown from a different perspective, so the first victim, a judge, a mayor and a scientist so far for me. I think we are up to 2007 now and he is still carrying on.
It was a huge scandal in France, quite rightly, and the failings of the various police departments and authorities in general beggar belief. If someone does try to connect the dots, like the judge, they move on and nobody pursues the matter further. The police are completely sexist and pathetic. One promising report from the scientist goes unread. Unbelievable. I did shout at the TV a few times, especially when the photo fit is drawn up and the police’s conclusions. That was pure farce, but without the humour of course!
I have already read about the case so knew the result, but I don’t know if heads rolled in the police department and judiciary. Probably not is the answer as it started so long ago I’m sure many are retired, and probably some people still wouldn’t care. These women making a fuss, right?
It is told in a very matter of fact way, and filmed in quite a pared back style. I think it is riveting but need a break from rape (and shouting at the TV) tonight so cannot finish it! It isn’t filmed in a gory way at all, no scenes of women being attacked. But it is a very good telling of an appalling story.
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Post by beverley61 on Sept 17, 2024 20:08:07 GMT
A bit like the mayor in that village where the woman was drugged and raped by lots of men while her husband watched. He said well she was drugged so she'll be fine, it's not like she was awake or it was violent is it. She can move on with her life!
Other people have said she shouldn't have gone public because now everyone knows the names of the men. If she'd requested a closed trial this wouldn't have happened. She wouldn't have been named and neither would the men. Then their families could have got on with their lives. One of the men was a neighbour.
People are concerned about the reputation of the village and angry that it's been named because of her.
Poor woman has been raped multiple times, contracted sexual diseases that she knew nothing about, that her GP didnt consider because why would either of them be thinking like that. Some men with HIV raped her, although it doesn't appear that she caught it. All of this was filmed and kept by her husband. She has no idea if he shared this online and people think she should have kept quiet.
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Post by Miranda on Sept 17, 2024 21:25:18 GMT
They have no right to be worrying about the reputation of their village. Loads of people knew this was happening and none of them did anything about it. Sod em.
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Post by geometryman on Sept 18, 2024 7:21:25 GMT
I watched Sambre and thought it was well done. There were times when it was quite hard to watch, mainly because it didn't hold back from showing the victims' distress at the time and probably for the rest of their lives. You like to think victim support and mental health services have greatly improved nowadays, and police don't just matter-of-factly jot things down in a notebook then ask a visibly injured woman in a state of shock "Do you wish to file a complaint?"!
The series is "inspired by real events" and intended as a tribute to the victims, not to be historically accurate. However at the final end credits it informed that the real-life rapist on which it was based eventually got a 20-year jail sentence for the more than 50 rapes and sexual assaults over a 30-year period that he'd managed to get away with.
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Post by beverley61 on Sept 18, 2024 8:09:40 GMT
They have no right to be worrying about the reputation of their village. Loads of people knew this was happening and none of them did anything about it. Sod em. Exactly. Most of these men are using a defence to say that her husband said she was a willing participant and that this was sex game and they didn't pay. However, in the videos you can hear her husband sometimes telling the men to be quiet and not move her too much in case she wakes. Then you have the fact that none of these men every mentioned this to her. Ok most wouldn't, but with all of these men there is bound to be one who, nudges her in the street or shops and winks etc. or says "See you next week". The fact that nothing like this ever happened to make her suspicious leads me to think that they knew this was not her choice. She wasn't pretending to be asleep, she was drugged. |
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Post by marion on Sept 18, 2024 8:28:42 GMT
I watched Sambre and thought it was well done. There were times when it was quite hard to watch, mainly because it didn't hold back from showing the victims' distress at the time and probably for the rest of their lives. You like to think victim support and mental health services have greatly improved nowadays, and police don't just matter-of-factly jot things down in a notebook then ask a visibly injured woman in a state of shock "Do you wish to file a complaint?"! The series is "inspired by real events" and intended as a tribute to the victims, not to be historically accurate. However at the final end credits it informed that the real-life rapist on which it was based eventually got a 20-year jail sentence for the more than 50 rapes and sexual assaults over a 30-year period that he'd managed to get away with. Yes it was incredible to me that they took the first woman’s statement in the police station while she sat there dripping blood and before any offer of a rape kit or other medical attention. Also, I would love to know what happened to the police officers involved, assuming that vile captain and the young one who seemed promising at first but just followed the path of his mentor, existed IRL, although the ones in the show are most likely fictional and amalgamations for dramatic effect, so there is no direct link. There was one scene where the mayor was trying to speak to the young one and he saw her in reception, didn’t even offer her a room or a quiet corner so people were forever walking between them and saying hello to him. I mean it was just so rude and dismissive. I think that poor lady in the current case has carried herself with great dignity. |
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Anymore to come?
