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Post by sootycat on Apr 29, 2020 11:19:01 GMT
So they are building a slurry pit, which makes me wonder who will end up in it!!
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Post by goodhelenstar on Apr 29, 2020 11:43:44 GMT
Well, that's a pain. I will record them but my hard drive is getting a bit full ...
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Post by vicky on Apr 29, 2020 20:37:09 GMT
I am finding this hard to follow with all the jumping back and forth between different time frames and now there seems to be a dream added in to the mix! It is spoiling the story for me. I also don't much like any of the characters......except the beautiful horse and I am getting very fearful for him.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Apr 29, 2020 21:14:23 GMT
Yes, I agree. I don't like any of the characters, who all seem to have an unpleasant edge. The horse is gorgeous though!
Have they actually established that the body in the boot is Paul? Or is it Kian? Jim is a bit accident-prone, isn't he?
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Post by geometryman on Apr 29, 2020 21:49:45 GMT
It's difficult for the body in the boot to be Kian, if the police believe it to be Paul. Different build, age, appearance, plus tattoos. Has DNA testing been mentioned? That would soon settle the matter. They'll have Paul's DNA on file from his earlier conviction.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2020 22:24:13 GMT
Is the muddled back and forth in time supposed to be clever? Or did someone in the editing room cut and paste job go wrong? It detracts from the story, atmosphere and character understanding to mess about like this too much without skilful use of the technique.... someone needs a refresher course. Good actors, nice setting, probably an interesting story and an animal with a part and this ought to be riveting viewing and it should not leave us house locked-ins, wondering what the hell is going on instead of switching off and going down the pub.
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Post by vicky on Apr 30, 2020 6:19:22 GMT
I hope police interviews aren't really conducted that way in Ireland! Only one officer present who is aggressive, asks leading questions and makes threats whilst most of the time her solicitor just silently sits there, although we had a close up shot of the book she is taking notes in. Is that significant? Maybe the way the interview is being conducted will backfire on the police. I will keep watching until the end now but the whole thing so far as story and production techniques are concerned is a shambolic mess.
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Post by geometryman on Apr 30, 2020 7:10:33 GMT
I hope so.
I don't trust that detective an inch. At one point I even wondered whether they actually found a body. When Fiona was arrested the first thing he said was "evidence was recovered of human remains" - a strange phrase to use if they'd found a substantially complete corpse, or is it just standard police jargon? In the next sentence he simplified it to "we found a body in the boot of the car".
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Post by goodhelenstar on Apr 30, 2020 8:22:21 GMT
Yes, that's why I was querying whether it has been established that (a) it's a single, complete body and (b) that it's Paul. Breen, the detective, said they believed it to be Paul, on the rather shaky basis that Paul is missing. That suggests either that the body wasn't recognisable or that he couldn't confirm it until the body had been formally identified. Now that we know that Kian is dead and Paul isn't, at the moment, it does suggest it could be Kian, but I take the point about tattoos and different size and shape. And lack of beard!
Fiona was arrested, or detained (has she actually been arrested?) from hospital, where she was taken after being found wandering in the road following her accident. She's still wearing the same clothes which were completely soaked. And she has MND. Not surprising that she isn't very talkative! The solicitor reminds me of solicitors in The Bill, who seldom said anything so that the actors could be paid less! I hope the less than textbook interview does backfire on Breen. If Fiona hasn't been arrested but is merely 'helping with enquiries' then he could argue he's simply having a chat, but as you say, the solicitor is writing it all down. We know from the last series that Breen has it in for Jim, who (according to Breen) didn't treat a work-related injury properly, hence his limp, and then used his influence to block Breen's promotion. But we also saw Breen being kind and helpful to Cat in the first series (when she suspected her father) and I can't see why he would go after Fiona as a way of getting back at Jim. Perhaps he's just flexing his muscles as a fairly new detective, or he knows something we don't yet know.
The flashing back and forth in time is annoying. In the first series the final episode was one long flashback which explained what had really gone on and I though was used very effectively, but IFRC the rest of the story had a linear timeline. This time it's confusing.
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Post by geometryman on Apr 30, 2020 8:40:29 GMT
Yes, she was formally arrested at the end of episode 1.
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Post by marion on Apr 30, 2020 9:11:52 GMT
Well it was the dream which flummoxed me. When Paul went back to the stables after the golf game I was wondering why I couldn't see all that blood on the floor!
I don't understand why Fiona hasn't mentioned her MND. How is she supposed to have overpowered and killed a perfectly fit man, taken his body to the car and loaded him into the boot? She can barely unscrew a pill bottle! She says "I'm dying" to the family so I think I would be saying it to Breen and asking why he thinks she would bump off her principal carer.
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Post by geometryman on Apr 30, 2020 9:34:18 GMT
Maybe the detective doesn't think Fiona actually committed murder, but thinks she does know more than she's saying. I'd agree with him there. When she was arrested Fiona didn't say "My poor husband!" or "What body in the boot? I've no idea what you're talking about"; she said "I didn't do this". Which suggests to me she knew something about whatever "this" is.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Apr 30, 2020 9:55:33 GMT
I'd forgotten about that! I thought it was part of the flashback rather than a dream – but which flashback? Is there more than one? Who knows? I think we were meant to think that it was the horse's blood, as the scene in the caravan hadn't happened at that point. But perhaps it's Kian's or another person yet to be identified. The young man who was beaten up in the first episode – is he dead? It's so difficult to keep count as the bodies pile up! You know the writer is in trouble when they keep killing off another person.
Jim is going to have a hard time convincing Breen that he didn't kill Kian, or at least didn't murder him. Perhaps he'll persuade Paul that he, Paul, is responsible – we know from series 1 that Jim is a capable liar.
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Post by vicky on Apr 30, 2020 10:11:59 GMT
No, I think Paul was dreaming about the blood on the stable floor and that he was afraid it belonged to the horse who he really seems to love (who wouldn't?). I certainly thought the horse had been badly injured and that we were going to see something horrible when Paul reached the loose box.....but before that moment arrived we suddenly switched to him waking up in bed with a start as you do after a bad dream. Is the production team's mission to create as much confusion as possible in the mind of the viewer? They have certainly succeeded with me!
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Post by geometryman on Apr 30, 2020 10:36:18 GMT
Me too. I assumed when he suddenly woke up that it had been a dream. Yes - well, Kian told Paul he was dead. His name was Shane.
Edit - according to imdb, he's in the cast list for tonight's episode...
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