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Post by Miranda on Sept 30, 2017 9:45:56 GMT
I think it's because he's not mentally ill enough. In a well-funded system he would be in a home somewhere where people would look after him and make sure he took his meds and fed himself.
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Post by sootycat on Sept 30, 2017 12:41:09 GMT
I like the way the care and compassion comes out from all the ambulance personnel, even though they must be gritting their teeth half the time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 15:58:51 GMT
You wouldn't believe how many patients refuse any input. Most health care staff try to persuade them to go into supported housing, more appropriate care, but if the patient refuses to go, then the law doesn't allow you to do anything if they have capacity.That can result in other people dying because the ambulance personnel are not allowed to leave them. NHS staff are "burning out " every day. (I was one of them. )
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Post by monic on Sept 30, 2017 18:42:43 GMT
Cuddles your right about the people refusing care or even care services. I worked in the same office as the home care organisers for the social work department and you overheard a conversation like this. Hello, just calling to let you know that your dad/mum has cancelled their meals on wheels / home care service. Since they still have capacity we have to cancel the service. 20 minutes later - Hello again, ok we will reinstate the meals on wheels tonight, unfortunately the carer has been sent elsewhere tonight but the normal service will start again tomorrow, but are you aware your parent is up and dressed when the carer comes in and is refusing all assistance.
There's no easy answer but the paramedics do a great service.
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Post by Geoffers on Oct 6, 2017 12:22:49 GMT
One of the highlights, if that is the correct word ,of the week for me, this programme.
Not sure about an ambulance lady having to climb through a window, l would have found a more agile neighbour.
But as usual some good little stories, not all ending well,such is life.
On a side note, had to record last week's, and recording stopped right at the end,where you get the what happened bits, saw what happened to Leon, but was any mention made of the big lady on the hoist and needed 4 people to get her out,was she ok did it say?
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Post by Miranda on Oct 6, 2017 12:27:07 GMT
I don't think they mentioned her again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 23:53:48 GMT
Great series. Perhaps should be shown in schools - might deter future would-be hoaxers.
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Post by Miranda on Oct 7, 2017 0:02:39 GMT
I agree. I don't think the kids who phone up realise the consequences of what they do.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 0:08:19 GMT
. . . or the drunks. I mean the pub and club leavers not those as shown recently with genuine alcohol problems. The two brothers in the last episode - such a sad story. All that wasted life because of an abusive and violent father. I'm glad that he is now accepting help.
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Post by janne on Oct 7, 2017 17:50:29 GMT
Great series. Perhaps should be shown in schools - might deter future would-be hoaxers. Lara, it is, isn't it? Addiction is hideous and destroys lives. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 18:33:43 GMT
Hi janne - yes it's me  I agree, this programme has highlighted quite a few lives blighted by family problems leading to homelessness and alcohol addiction. A very good programme. I admire with growing appreciation the job the operators face each shift. |
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Post by Miranda on Oct 12, 2017 23:10:57 GMT
Just watching the one about the calls about Storm Doris. And I am amazed at how much garden furniture there is flying around. We knew this was coming, we knew it was going to be bad. We had more than enough warning and still people leave out inflatable paddling pools and garden chairs. WTF?
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Post by Miranda on Oct 12, 2017 23:20:41 GMT
Ah... Solihull hospital. That explains why they let her out too early. Crappy hospital. One of the reasons I don't like going there. If I collapse there I'll be taken to that hospital......
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Post by sootycat on Oct 13, 2017 11:17:55 GMT
What a great series and what sad stories.
I do hope we will get a new series.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 16:15:16 GMT
Ah... Solihull hospital. That explains why they let her out too early. Crappy hospital. One of the reasons I don't like going there. If I collapse there I'll be taken to that hospital...... I think it's endemic now. It's some 8 years since I retired,  , but even then, patients were deemed "medically fit for discharge", and we had to fight to keep them in as they wouldn't be safe at home. I remember Selina Scott sounding off about her father being discharged from Scarboro Hospital, saying that the man who had done it obviously wasn't medically qualified. He was the bed manager, and was previously a Ward manager, ie Sister. But the whole staff respond to pressure from above.There is alot of "burn out", especially with those of us who were brought up in the "caring" nhs. I was quite upset about last night's programme.I have treated frail 80 year olds. But last night really brought it home to me, in another 20 years , that could be me. I'm hoping that I shall be ok till I pip my clogs. If not, then I hope sense will have prevailed , and I can slide gently into oblivion. |
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, but even then, patients were deemed "medically fit for discharge", and we had to fight to keep them in as they wouldn't be safe at home. I remember Selina Scott sounding off about her father being discharged from Scarboro Hospital, saying that the man who had done it obviously wasn't medically qualified. He was the bed manager, and was previously a Ward manager, ie Sister. But the whole staff respond to pressure from above.There is alot of "burn out", especially with those of us who were brought up in the "caring" nhs.
Anymore to come?
