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Post by marion on Jul 10, 2016 12:29:06 GMT
This is the new series in the foreign slot on BBC4, 9.00, from Saturday July 16.
It is Swedish police series. We have had one previous series which I can barely remember except for finding it a bit of a charisma free zone, although I think the plots were OK. I could be wrong though!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2016 12:45:10 GMT
Name is ringing a bell for me too, marion, but I can't remember anything about it. Will give it a go, but wish it was Montalbano (or Young Montalbano).  |
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Post by Miranda on Jul 10, 2016 12:57:57 GMT
www.imdb.com/title/tt0907683/I vaguely remember this. Beck is eccentric and lonely, his partner is an uptight, moralistic, married man and they disagreed with each other a fair bit. I think one of the plots involved an ex-copper who Beck knew well who committed suicide ... I think.
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Post by marion on Jul 10, 2016 16:50:50 GMT
Is Beck they guy who has that weird neighbour and they converse on the balcony?? If so, I think the plots were OK but the policemen are not at all interesting. I can't remember the partner at all (assuming I have remembered Beck!). Still as ever I shall give it a whirl.
As we are having such a rotten summer, a bit of Montalbano wouldn't go amiss.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 22:43:36 GMT
I thorough enjoyed this as a series on Radio 4 with Steven Mackintosh as Beck. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01mny1zI watched the TV version but didn't enjoy it as much as the radio series. |
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Post by goodhelenstar on Jul 16, 2016 17:29:39 GMT
Is Beck they guy who has that weird neighbour and they converse on the balcony?? If so, I think the plots were OK but the policemen are not at all interesting. I can't remember the partner at all (assuming I have remembered Beck!). Still as ever I shall give it a whirl. As we are having such a rotten summer, a bit of Montalbano wouldn't go amiss. That's the one. I remember it as being rather tedious and can't remember any of the plots, but I do remember the neighbour! |
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Post by goodhelenstar on Jul 17, 2016 7:06:21 GMT
Had a quick check on IMDB and last night's episode was from the third and final series in 2007. Interestingly, the visiting German detective Sperling had his own series of the same name in Germany over a number of years.
So Beck is a polyglot – I'm not an expert but his German sounded as good as his English. And the irritating neighbour is still there.
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Post by Gargleblaster on Jul 17, 2016 8:42:24 GMT
I missed the first 10 minutes of this due to a telephone call but I managed to catch up and quite enjoyed what I saw. At least, it was different although as a series I might get irritated by the irritating neighbour.
I saw a wonderful exhibition of "shunga" at the British Museum last year so this episode had an added interest.
I might well look at the next episode. I like the idea of the episode being complete.
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Post by marion on Jul 17, 2016 9:09:14 GMT
I rather enjoyed it as well. How interesting that Sperling has his own series, I wonder if we will see it! I was a bit confused as to what his actual job was, mind! Was he in the Art Squad or just a policeman who dabbled in art? With an erotic plane!!!!!!!
I have an awful feeling the irritating neighbour is supposed to be hilarious. Perhaps in the Swedish sense of humour he is. Didn't he bang on (and on) about cucumbers in the last series? But the Benny Hill style receptionist in Montalbano is probably a huge comedy hit in Italy and I find him seriously unfunny and very annoying!
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Post by goodhelenstar on Jul 31, 2016 7:07:14 GMT
Yes, this seems to be the hook of this series, but they do lay it on with a trowel, as with Beck's toothache last night. I guess it's meant to be a bit of light relief in the bleakness of the stories. Inger is quite annoying too – not sure what the message is there. It struck me as old-fashioned – I haven't read the books so don't know how much of the characters' personalities and behaviour come from the original stories.
The actual story was very well done, I thought, and sadly quite believable. No murder after all, just a sad reflection on the murky side of human nature, with no one coming out of it well.
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Post by marion on Jul 31, 2016 8:38:00 GMT
I have a feeling the books date from the 1960s, so although updated maybe they still try to reflect the atmosphere of the books?? This film was made in 2007 I believe.
Scandi crime often has a difficult daughter! Inger is annoying, the first Swedish TV Linda Wallander was annoying, I am just reading an Icelandic crime (Jar City) with....... Yes an annoying druggie daughter. Funnily enough, the parent never says "Get over yourself".
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Post by goodhelenstar on Jul 31, 2016 8:58:21 GMT
Yes, they were written in the 60s and 70s, so when Beck said in a previous episode that he was from the 50s, he actually meant it rather than it being meant as ironic. I was thinking of Beck's attitude to Inger and seeing it as his role to protect her from Gunvald's reputation (if he has one) for playing the field. This week, though, it seems to have worked.
Linda Wallander was indeed annoying in the early programmes, though with more justification. That side of their relationship was not covered in the Branagh versions, where she seemed to have a quite different personality. I was never sure if the timescale was before or after her time in the police. I suppose we'll never know as I don't think there will be any more programmes either with Ken or Krister.
Jar City was adapted for TV with Ingvar Eggert Sigurðsson, the actor who played Ásgeir, the police sidekick in Trapped, in the lead role. It was a very bleak story and I do remember the daughter being annoying! She was a recovering heroin addict, I think? (Actually, come to think of it, the daughters in Trapped were annoying too, just a lot younger.)
We don't know much about Beck's background, do we? Is he widowed or divorced? Whichever, I imagine Inger will blame him as that's what TV daughters do.
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Post by marion on Jul 31, 2016 10:27:23 GMT
I didn't know Jar City was a film. I liked that actor from Trapped. And look at you with your posh Icelandic alphabet!!!! I saw a review of the most recent in the Erlandur (?) series so decided to start at the beginning. The daughter is an addict and trying to get money from him. I think she is still using but tells him she is trying to quit, but I haven't got very far yet.
Gunvald does seem a bit of a commitmentphobe but in the case of Inger that may be a wise move!
I always thought the first Linda had a rather unsettling father complex.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Aug 1, 2016 11:20:37 GMT
What do we know about Gunvald's personal life? He mentioned Lillemor and Simone when Inger was asking him to go away for the weekend. I think Simone is of a similar age to Inger's son, so is Simone Gunvald's daughter and if so, who is Lillemor? I wondered if that might be a pet name for a grandmother, but it seems to be a first name.
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Post by marion on Aug 1, 2016 13:17:19 GMT
I am guessing here but I assumed Simone was his daughter and Lillemore her mother and his ex-wife or ex-partner.
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