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Post by Miranda on Aug 26, 2019 22:53:40 GMT
According to Wiki, the rich did cos they were the only ones that could go. Scarborough was one of the first. The upper classes had been going there for quite a while to take the waters so when sea bathing came popular in the 18th century, it was good business to buy bathing huts and encourage visitors to go bathing. The poor didn't go to a seaside resort until the railways made it cheap to go. "The opening of the resort in Brighton and its reception of royal patronage from King George IV extended the seaside as a resort for health and pleasure to the much larger London market, and the beach became a centre for upper-class pleasure and frivolity. This trend was praised and artistically elevated by the new romantic ideal of the picturesque landscape; Jane Austen's unfinished novel Sanditon is an example of that." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seaside_resort
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Post by geometryman on Aug 27, 2019 5:45:22 GMT
I enjoyed the first episode. How close it might be to other Jane Austen work doesn't bother me at all, I approve of the modern language, and even the music - which I often jars with me - I thought added to it. So, definitely sticking with this one.
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Post by bethb63 on Aug 27, 2019 6:07:37 GMT
My husband, who has worked with horses, pointed out that in both Sanditon and Poldark they seem to travel on twin track roads which reflects the modern use of four wheels -- if horses are pulling carts the horse beats its own third track, in the middle. Only a few vehicles such as the carriages of the very rich, and the mail coach, would have two or four horses. I laugh at them because they drive the teams hell for leather in a way which would have them exhausted in half an hour, whereas journeys were long and took days to complete. The dialogue in this programme jars with me, it sounds too modern. Did they really call seaside towns "resorts" before Victorian times? I haven’t read Jane Austen, but I have read a lot of regency romance in the style of Georgette Heyer. These very often featured rich people galloping around in carriages (going to Gretna Green or pursuing someone going to Gretna Green usually 😀). They always used posting houses to change out teams and travel faster, in the way of mail coaches. I have no idea how much it would cost or how common it was, but I would assume only rich people did it, and not for every journey. But I’ve never seen this method shown in any drama that I recall. Just the amazing Super Horsepower. Wiki explanation: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_house_(historical_building)
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Post by Gargleblaster on Aug 27, 2019 16:44:41 GMT
The scene of the coach being driven along the country track with the country house in the background but the soundtrack made it seem as if the horses were galloping on cobble stones.
Interesting that one of the male swimmers was seen doing the Australian crawl when it wasn't invented until the late 1800s.
Another thing: I've always understood that bathing machines were drawn by horses. The ladies entered on the beach and then the machines were drawn down to the water by the horses and then when the ladies descended, they were ducked under the water by the attendants. No horses and no ducking.
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Post by beverley61 on Sept 2, 2019 19:10:43 GMT
Is anyone watching. I saw a Facebook ad with comments and they were shocking. One said it made Beecham House look like Shakespeare. Is that right, I was going to check it out on catch up but the comments are putting me off.
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Post by Miranda on Sept 2, 2019 19:33:33 GMT
It's not that bad! Although, TBF, I haven't watched the second one yet. I quite liked it, mainly cos I didn't expect it to be any good, I think. It's definitely not Austen.
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Post by marion on Sept 2, 2019 19:45:11 GMT
I think its far better than Beecham House which I eventually abandoned, I found it so tedious. I think on its own terms this is quite enjoyable. You can't mistake it for Austen though who I'm sure never referred to a prick, other than in the context of needlework. And more make nudity this week. Did men really wander out of the sea in front of young women in those days?
I was surprised to read in some review if this show that when the cad and the ward were spotted in the grass by Charlotte, they had been enjoying some oral sex!!!!! Blimey! Well I certainly never spotted any of that going on, I thought he was trying to hug her!!!! Maybe I need stronger glasses, lol. Or perhaps not....
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Post by Miranda on Sept 2, 2019 20:08:24 GMT
Yeah... that was definitely not a hug. As for stronger glasses I would go with not!
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Post by geometryman on Sept 2, 2019 22:26:01 GMT
Last week I thought it was oral - but turned out it was manual (and she started it in order to pre-empt him, if we believe his account to his sister, who it turns out is actually his step-sister).
I'm probably in a minority here, but I'm greatly enjoying it. Loved the pineapple incident - "Don't worry my dear, I'm sure it can be saved" said someone, as we looked at the decaying fruit infested with maggots! And, "he has the effrontery to handle my pineapple!" said Lady Denham, a line which could have come straight from a Carry On film. I thought the scene of the misses Heywood and Lambe becoming friends and having fun paddling in the sea together was well done too.
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Post by bethb63 on Sept 3, 2019 6:34:59 GMT
I like it when my brain stops muttering “THAT’S not very Jane Austen!”
The pineapple scene was very funny.
I can’t help thinking so far, Charlotte is better suited to the architect than she is to Sidney.
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Post by vicky on Sept 3, 2019 11:45:21 GMT
I am finding it enjoyable and very funny in places ( the already mentioned pineapple incident). Comparing it unfavourably with the dire Beecham House is ridiculous!
Given that - apart from the bare outline of a story - this isn't Austen, I predict that Miss Heywood will end up with the architect and not the borish Sidney.
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Post by Delia on Sept 8, 2019 15:56:08 GMT
I thought that it was rather Darcyish, in that at first, the two characters were at odds. But I bet they end up together, having ironed out any misunderstandings.
Some good characters there, and I Iove Lady Denham!!
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Post by vicky on Sept 9, 2019 7:00:53 GMT
I'm beginning to find it all a bit bland.
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Post by Delia on Sept 9, 2019 7:40:00 GMT
I enjoyed it: it made laugh, and I agree with beth63, that once you stop thinking about whether Jane Austen would have written it, and just take it as it is, it is watchable. There are some strangely modern moments, including the dialogue, but then I suppose that the way they spoke then would sound very formal to our ears now.
Loved the concept of the "shower bath" and subsequently Lady Denham's scorn of it!
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Post by marion on Sept 9, 2019 10:31:56 GMT
It made me laugh out loud last night when Charlotte was asked if she had seen anything impressive on the beach! I am rather enjoying it.
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