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Post by bidiein on Mar 3, 2020 9:11:26 GMT
Because of the 2 hour time, I was expecting a second killing...
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Post by goodhelenstar on Mar 3, 2020 9:37:33 GMT
Yes, usually just before the third ad break! I suppose it was following the Morse / Lewis / Endeavour timeframe, but it's a very different beast, much less cerebral and more played for, if not laughs exactly, then whimsy.
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Post by geometryman on Mar 3, 2020 10:35:11 GMT
I enjoyed this more than I expected to. I had been a bit put off by the Radio Times, and they're right that the "You're from London, this is Bath" was annoyingly over-used. It's the two leads that make this for me. Jason Watkins' Dodds was about what I expected, but McDonald was completely different from how I imagined her and I was pleasantly surprised. Those two go really well together.
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Post by beverley61 on Mar 3, 2020 12:22:24 GMT
For me it was a bit Shakespeare and Hathaway. We did have lots of distractions mainly next door's cat bringing in a mouse but what I did manage was to see was ok. Shame only two episodes because I think sometimes these things have to build. Like the first couple of times I watched Detectorists I was only marginally amused but I was laughing out loud by the end. Sometimes we have to get to know people.
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Post by marion on Mar 3, 2020 12:40:55 GMT
I think where they went wrong with the 'you're from London, this is Bath' stuff which seemed to figure nearly every time the poor woman had a conversation, was that they should have referred to her being from The Met. Rivalry between forces is more understandable as you can imagine The Met thinks it is the bees knees. And she can't be the only non Bath native in that police force, surely.
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Post by Miranda on Mar 3, 2020 12:42:15 GMT
Considering that most people who live in Bath aren't actually from Bath, I would doubt it. Bath is mostly rich people and students.
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Post by diziet sma on Mar 7, 2020 2:28:13 GMT
Sure. Wetback was very commonly used pejorative for Mexicans in the 60s and 70s but died out. I haven't heard anyone say it in many years and I am sure most millennials never heard it or if they did they would need it explained to them. One of my local repeat stations plays the old series "Green Acres" in regular rotation. Green Acres was about a Harvard educated New York lawyer who leaves the city along with his glamorous Hungarian wife to buy a dilapidated farm in a small midwestern town. Its very light hearted fish out of water humor. But one of the running gags was the locals always thought he moved there because he was disbarred, and he was accused of smuggling, running or employing wetbacks in at least 10 episodes. Those comments have not been edited out of the repeats. I can only assume its because no one remembers they are in there. The first time I heard the term "wetback" was in the movie Pulp Fiction where Pumpkin was explaining to Honey Bunny how they could get away with robbing a diner. He says (more or less) You think some wetback making 5$ an hour will take a bullet for his boss...? And weirdly, the only time I have heard of Green Acres was also in Pulp Fiction! In the same restaurant, when Sam L Jackson asks "If a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that correct?" and John Travolta says "We would have to be talking about one charming muther-f******* pig. He had have to be ten times more charming than that Arnold from Green Acres". I pictured Green Acres as being something like Mr Ed. Perhaps a talking pig. They never explain because Pumpkin and Honey Bunny start the robbery..... I guess the term means someone who has supposedly swam across the Rio Grande. |
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Post by yankee on Mar 7, 2020 14:28:13 GMT
Arnold the pig didnt talk in the same way as Mr. Ed.
He grunted but everyone in Hooterville (except for the main character Oliver Douglass) understood him
He went to school, rode a skateboard, played piano and ukelele, had a paper route, and loved watching TV.
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Post by beatxt on Mar 7, 2020 22:14:55 GMT
Re: discussion of the term 'wetback'. I'm reminded of the great Tom Lehrer's (one of the greatest rhymers in songwriting) In Old Mexico (last verse, written in the late 1950's - clearly a different era...). Great song, listen out for the bit where someone steals his wallet at a bullfight! :
Now it's fiesta time in Akron, Ohio,
But it's back to old Guadalajara I'm longing to go.
Far away from the strikes of the A.F. of L. and C.I.O.
How I wish I could get back
To the land of the wetback,
And forget the Alamo,
In old Mexico. Ole!
Oh. I'm enjoying M & D too. Hope there's more to come.
Hugo Rifkind in The Times today made the valid observation that nothing so parochially British is ever likely to be made by Netflix. A very valid observation I think - would they do Vera ?
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Post by bethb63 on Mar 8, 2020 7:38:46 GMT
Sky did commission Agatha Raisin, but in general sense I would agree the point.
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Post by Miranda on Mar 8, 2020 12:49:20 GMT
What is the point? I don't get what point he is trying to make.
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Post by linseed on Mar 8, 2020 16:07:47 GMT
The point being that Netflix would be unlikely to make something so parochially British, quoting Beatxt upthread, i think
anyway! 2nd and final episode of this tonight!
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Post by goodhelenstar on Mar 8, 2020 17:00:44 GMT
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Post by Miranda on Mar 8, 2020 17:01:55 GMT
Yeah and? Netflix have an international demographic and stream TV from all over the world. Still don't get his point.
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Post by bidiein on Mar 8, 2020 22:04:34 GMT
So.….good points.
The central characters. The setting. The cast. The script - some good lines - "you tick boxes that don't exist yet!"
Bad points.
The plots.
IMO they need to either make this 30 minutes or even 60 minutes shorter in length, or employ writers who can come up with decent, believable plots.
Tonights episode was useless. The 5 suspects would have been taken to a police station and questioned separately until one or more of them cracked. Even allowing for the rambling style of the lead detectives when it came to investigations, it dragged. The pay off was convoluted and unbelievable.
Back to the drawing board for story lines please - but the main 4 detectives are all good characters. And Bath is lovely. They even acknowledged the student/out of London/Air B&B make up of the city residents.
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Anymore to come?
