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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 10:13:38 GMT
I wonder why the matches could not be postponed till Monday?
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Post by Geoffers on Oct 10, 2019 10:21:38 GMT
There are schedules and to be fair to all if games cant take place,they are cancelled.
Not sure of the timetable,but players have to rest between games,for one thing,then there is all the logistics of staffing, transport,tv scheduling, policing.
Just moving it to another day is seen as just not an option.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 11:21:04 GMT
Italy's response:
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Post by beverley61 on Oct 10, 2019 11:34:43 GMT
It does seem a ridiculous system. I can't see how they couldn't just postpone it for another day. It happens in other sports.
All those fans travelled miles and spent a fortune. I am sure there are Italian fans that travelled just to see New Zealand etc. It seems to be a very amateur set up that they wouldn't even build this possibility into the schedule.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 11:38:45 GMT
They had prepared for the possibility of moving games. Part of the problem is that the typhoon is seriously big. it could cover a very large part of Honshu when it hits. To give you an idea of the size:  |
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Post by Geoffers on Oct 10, 2019 13:04:58 GMT
It does seem a ridiculous system. I can't see how they couldn't just postpone it for another day. It happens in other sports. All those fans travelled miles and spent a fortune. I am sure there are Italian fans that travelled just to see New Zealand etc. It seems to be a very amateur set up that they wouldn't even build this possibility into the schedule. But it is usually played in all weathers,it might be the typhoon season, but these are hard to predict. I suppose they could have an indoor arena on standby, but perhaps this is not feasible. I would suggest that the organisers know what they are doing, and would not cancel it without weighing up all options. |
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Post by beverley61 on Oct 10, 2019 14:20:07 GMT
Oh I'm not suggesting it is safe to play the game just that other events e.g. Wimbledon, Winter Olympics, there always seems to be extra time built in and they did know it was typhoon season when the chose the dates and location. There is always quite a long gap between rugby games - much longer than football tournaments and I can't see how having a plan B or C would have been a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2019 13:13:19 GMT
But, you have to ask what is happening beyond the Rugby World Cup. A typhoon is a national emergency that goes beyond whether, or not a game is playable; to guarantee that a game is playable, you have to play it before the typhoon hits. To help you understand what is going on, already they have cancelled the great majority of flights in mainland Japan and many of its rail services. The area of Japan that will be affected by what is the second major typhoon to hit the country in a month is enormous. Only the far west of the country will escape its effects.  |
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Post by Geoffers on Oct 11, 2019 13:47:21 GMT
Scotland,apparently are taking legal advice over the chance of their game being cancelled.
Nice job for a lawyer,if they can find what law has been breached.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2019 14:07:24 GMT
While I understand their frustration, it is a pity that they have done that. I have been looking at what typhoons really mean for Japan. Perhaps because people are not so familiar with them, they don't treat them in the same way as they treat hurricanes, but they are essentially the same, and this is currently fluctuating between what would be a level 4 and a level 5 hurricane, winds are already crossing the coastline, and the cloud structure is already covering most of the country -- which does not mean that the winds are high, but it means that there is a lot of rain. In Japan, that can mean landslides. World Rugby is in a very difficult situation. They cannot simply tell the Japanese government that they want to hold a rugby match after the typhoon has passed. It all depends on what the typhoon did. The current situation is a wait and see one, as far as they are concerned. That is all they can do.
It was interesting to read that Eddie Jones had been warning that it would be better to get your results in early, precisely because he has experience of Japanese typhoons (having been in charge of the Japanese national rugby team).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2019 8:44:32 GMT
 The typhoon, itself hasn't hit yet, but this is what it is like in some places. |
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Post by monic on Oct 12, 2019 10:09:58 GMT
All of this makes you ask why hold the tournament in Japan during typhoon season, probably money related. Legal action seems wrong but I can see why they’re frustrated, can the New Zealand and Italy fans get refunds for a wasted trip, bet not. Sounds like the organisers didn’t think this through properly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2019 10:21:26 GMT
World Rugby obviously didn't ask the Japanese what would be necessary. They had thought that the backup stadium for Yokohama would be in Tokyo, 14 miles away. Given the size of Hagibis, it would have needed to be moved to Hokkaido, or to Kyushu.
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Post by Miranda on Oct 12, 2019 10:29:09 GMT
I think the WC has to be at this time of year due to the other commitments of the teams. I agree with Bob that the organisers just didn't think, or ask about, how big typhoons can actually get. And I guess the Japanese authorities just had their fingers crossed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2019 11:41:45 GMT
Next year's Tokyo Olympics, July 24th to August 9th, are also during the typhoon season!
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