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Post by vicky on Jan 28, 2019 19:29:56 GMT
Sorry I didn't make it clear...it's the birth scenes they use cgi for and also for showing some disabilities. I read it in an article after the episodes that showed thalidomide babies being born. I assumed that the same was done in last night's episode. Cgi is so good now it can very difficult to spot.
The little girl with the over protective mother was obviously very real. I thought she was adorable.
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Post by cakewalk on Jan 28, 2019 22:06:56 GMT
Oh yes, RT made it clear that the CGI was only used in the thalidomide episode. A real child's head plus a thalidomide body. And I got the impression that it's the only time they used it.
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Post by beverley61 on Feb 4, 2019 12:16:18 GMT
Definitely a theme developing here with the abortion route. Of course last nights incident would have been classed as murder/manslaughter therefore a bigger police investigation. If this theme continnues my dibs is on the medical receptionist.
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Post by vicky on Feb 4, 2019 12:23:24 GMT
Wow, I hadn't thought of that one! You mean as the arbortionist? Dr. Turner's patients would recognise her though so she would be taking a terrible risk.It's an interesting twist though.
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Post by Miranda on Feb 4, 2019 12:39:14 GMT
I see her more as the contact for the abortionist rather than the abortionist herself. As the young nun said, if it's all so secret how do they know where to go? That was a big hint to a reveal, I think.
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Post by beverley61 on Feb 4, 2019 16:28:56 GMT
Well it's just that we have had an abortion story in other series e.g. the school teacher and then again in this one. In both case the women ended up having hysterectomies (which was rare, but popular with TV/films etc. most abortionists knew what they were about and nobody was harmed, they were known to turn away women too far into their pregnancies and knew their limitations, which is why they operated for years undetected) and now we have had one where the woman died. That is two stories about abortion in one series, which is pushing it a bit, considering that most women did not have one in those days (that we know of). I just feel that it must be someone we have already met, someone superfluous but who is there. Perhaps I am wrong about the receptionist and maybe we haven't met the actual person yet but it just occurred to me that she is about retirement age and seems to have some medical knowledge (I can't remember if they said what she did before). I just have a feeling that now a woman has actually died they will make more of it. I could be wrong - I often am.
The nuns/midwives probably wouldn't know who to ask and where to go, because frankly, a nun is probably the last person you are going to ask. Other midwives might have a clue and older midwives (before registration) were often suspect themselves.
Imagine it it's the woman in the haberdashery shop!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 16:51:53 GMT
I think it’s leading into the introduction of the pill, they were making a lot of the fact that women had no control of their own bodies. They can make a storyline about the moral dilemma the nuns will have when it’s available.
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Post by vicky on Feb 4, 2019 17:56:03 GMT
I think she was a civil servant....I thought that was what she said last week when talking to the over-protective mother but I may also be wrong; like beverley61 I often am!
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Post by undertheparapet on Feb 5, 2019 13:48:38 GMT
I think it’s leading into the introduction of the pill, they were making a lot of the fact that women had no control of their own bodies. They can make a storyline about the moral dilemma the nuns will have when it’s available. The nun midwives aren’t Roman Catholic, so they may not have an automatic objection to contraception (whatever their private opinion). The Pill came in in 1961 for married women only (until 1967) - it’s hard to believe that the NHS could promote such a moral discrimination, isn’t it? i think the current series is in 1961/2 judging by the nuclear civil defence stuff, so I’m not sure why it doesn’t seem to be being prescribed by the doctor, given that he’s quite modern. |
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Post by undertheparapet on Feb 5, 2019 14:04:16 GMT
As far as abortion is concerned it was then, as always, a question of what you could afford to pay.
If you had plenty of cash, there would always have been clinics or surgeons willing to perform a “D&C” under sterile conditions and proper anaesthesia, skirting around the law.
If you didn’t, then you were reliant on local women, or struck-off doctors, who may or may not have had high standards of care. The proportion of women who suffered life threatening infections or trauma was probably quite low......compared with the proportion of “ successful” procedures, if you can put it like that.
Finding someone who could “help” you wouldn’t be that hard if you were nested into a community, but much harder if you were isolated or had moved to a big city.
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Post by vicky on Feb 5, 2019 16:29:46 GMT
I got married in 1967 and went to my GP before the wedding to ask for the Pill. I was told to come back after I was married as it couldn't be prescribed to unmarried women. I couldn't believe it - so much for the Swinging Sixties!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 16:59:53 GMT
I think it’s leading into the introduction of the pill, they were making a lot of the fact that women had no control of their own bodies. They can make a storyline about the moral dilemma the nuns will have when it’s available. The nun midwives aren’t Roman Catholic, so they may not have an automatic objection to contraception (whatever their private opinion). The Pill came in in 1961 for married women only (until 1967) - it’s hard to believe that the NHS could promote such a moral discrimination, isn’t it? i think the current series is in 1961/2 judging by the nuclear civil defence stuff, so I’m not sure why it doesn’t seem to be being prescribed by the doctor, given that he’s quite modern. The current series is 1964. We've had the birth of Prince Edward and Doctor Who appearing on the TV. I'm pretty sure I remember the pill already featuring in a previous series, and yes, the Nuns weren't happy. |
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Post by beverley61 on Feb 5, 2019 20:02:40 GMT
The problem with the woman in the series was that her contraception had failed and she was already pregnant. She had been using the cap which was used regularly right up to the early 90s for women unable to use the pill.
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Post by marion on Feb 11, 2019 10:41:54 GMT
Something a bit different last night. I was getting really worried they were going to make Lois live as a man, at one point, regardless of what she might have wanted. Couldn't they have offered her some.plastic surgery to make sex easier? Nowadays you get a full vagina if you transition, after all. Perhaps it was a bit too soon in the NHS for that!
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Post by beverley61 on Feb 11, 2019 12:43:33 GMT
I didn't watch, read the blurb and decided to watch Endeavour instead. Yes corrective surgery was available then under specialist surgical teams, I have no idea how good it was. It wasn't a new thing, it was often picked up at puberty when periods did not start and breasts did not develop etc. Hysterectomy is still often the way to go, as there is a high risk of cancer if the organs have not developed properly. Hormone treatments were not very good at that time and could be very difficult for people to maintain.
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