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Post by geometryman on Mar 3, 2017 9:15:44 GMT
Very disappointing. None of the characters came alive for me, most of them being stereotyped in order to make a point. The story line was very slow and the way the police were portrayed seemed a bit far fetched I thought. Was the police procedure for interviewing suspects authentically 1970s I wonder? Did they really intimidate in the way shown last night with no record of what had gone on? I also found the Detective Inspector very difficult to understand. He sounded as though he had a mouthful of cottonwool. I could understand the Detective Inspector OK, but he sounded most peculiar, as though the actor was struggling with the accent he'd been told to do. Turns out he (Sam Reid) is Australian, which could explain that.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Mar 3, 2017 9:48:21 GMT
The writers must have agonised over how to present this. Tennison is so identified with Helen Mirren that anyone else playing the part is up against it. but that's also true of Morse and Endeavour, which worked very well (though I don't remember how the first episode was initially received). Its hard at the moment to see how young Jane will become the tough but tender and fallible DCI we know, but this was only the first episode, it will take time to bed in. The first 'proper' Prime Suspect was also about the murder of a prostitute, though what it was really about was the reluctance of her team to accept a female boss. So there are parallels here.
I liked the little we saw of her home life, the attitudes of her parents and being treated like a teenager after a day attending a post mortem. Her mother clearly thinks this is no job for a woman. So she's up against it both at home and at work.
I thought the sexism of the time was well done. The police officers were mostly good-natured with each other and with the WPCs, and their attitudes were the assumptions of the time rather than rampantly over the top in order to make a point. The housing estate where the door-to-door was done looked very familiar – I'm sure we've been there before!
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Post by spinninghead on Mar 3, 2017 10:22:34 GMT
I noted that this was based on a book called 'Tennison'. ITV missed a trick here by not titling the television adaptation as 'First Suspect'. 'Prime Suspect 1973' is such a clunky title. As to the drama itself, quite evocative of the period - especially the way female officers were treated. Were male constables ever obliged to make the tea? As someone else has pointed out, the references to Thin Lizzy and Watergate weren't needed and they show sloppy script-writing. I'll stick with it - though, I was constantly asking myself "where's Gene Hunt, when we need him?"
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Post by marion on Mar 3, 2017 12:36:12 GMT
Yes I agree. No Gene Hunt was a further nail in the coffin. 😃
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 14:24:24 GMT
As far as I can remember, 1973 was a stinker of a year.
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Post by Miranda on Mar 3, 2017 15:36:52 GMT
.And that happened a lot in the Seventies!
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Post by profbooboo on Mar 3, 2017 16:20:51 GMT
Lol, I was thinking the same at times. Edit: I don't know what's happened with the above quote. It's supposed to show the quote about Gene Hunt. When I was watching I though I might need to get my Life on Mars box sets out.
I never really saw the original Prime Suspect (and mix of me being a bit young when it started and not really liking Helen Mirren that much) so went into this with little knowledge of the original and maybe that was a help. I think if you've seen the original or are a fan of it then this could be a disappointment.
I'm glad someone else has mentioned the DI's voice, I thought it was just me who was having trouble understanding him. It's as if he's talking with his jaw clenched. I ended up plugging in my earphones to the tv as that works to block everything out except the tv and enhances the dialogue, but I shouldn't really have to do that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 16:36:48 GMT
Slow. But I'll stick with it. Cat Stevens took me back, and I remember a confrontation with my mother re "the pill"!
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Post by goodhelenstar on Mar 4, 2017 10:18:07 GMT
Watched the first part of PS5 again last night, for the umpteenth time. Steven Mackintosh, acting against type as a very menacing villain, has never been better.
I do hope that the new series does not mean that ITV3 will stop showing the originals from time to time. Probably not – Morse is still on the go several years after Endeavour first hit the screens.
In the new series, I enjoyed hearing the songs of the day but thought they were unnecessary to evoke the period and were inappropriate as a support to the drama. I'd have preferred inconspicuous background music. They could have used the same composer as the original series, Steven Warbeck, who was BAFTA nominated for his incidental music (and won an Oscar for Shakespeare in Love). He's done loads of film and TV, most recently Indian Summers.
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Post by sqwerty on Mar 4, 2017 19:52:23 GMT
I haven't seen this, and reading the comments on here, don't think I'll bother. I have seen pics obviously of the actress playing the character - the eyebrows are too modern for a start.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 22:12:42 GMT
It was ok for the first in the series, I suppose they have to bed people in and of course there will be some who never saw the original Prime Suspect. I'll keep viewing.
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Post by thecleaner on Mar 5, 2017 17:47:22 GMT
Very disappointing. None of the characters came alive for me, most of them being stereotyped in order to make a point. The story line was very slow and the way the police were portrayed seemed a bit far fetched I thought. Was the police procedure for interviewing suspects authentically 1970s I wonder? Did they really intimidate in the way shown last night with no record of what had gone on? I also found the Detective Inspector very difficult to understand. He sounded as though he had a mouthful of cottonwool. Two words......The Sweeney.......we haven't had any dinner. I enjoyed this.
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Post by sqwerty on Mar 5, 2017 21:10:47 GMT
Now have decided to watch a bit, and for the period details at least (except the eyebrows, eyeliner etc), interesting from that perspective. I remember telex machines like that. (I didn't like Life On Mars particularly though.)
Seriously though, would anyone answer their door in just their pants, in 1973? (even if they are Y-Fronts!)
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Post by Miranda on Mar 5, 2017 23:01:11 GMT
I knew a bloke who used to open the door in his pants. He ended up getting arrested for being a perv. That was about 76, I think.
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Post by spinninghead on Mar 6, 2017 8:28:51 GMT
I knew a bloke who used to open the door in his pants. He ended up getting arrested for being a perv. That was about 76, I think. What brand of pants had a door in them???
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