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Post by marion on Feb 25, 2017 13:08:56 GMT
This prequel starts on ITV on Thursday 2 March at 9.00. Obviously Endeavour has been a great success so I wonder if this will be? Clearly there will be a load of sexism, but the BBC covered that in the daytime show WPC47, or somesuch. So I hope they have taken as much care with the plot as the social commentary.
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Post by cakewalk on Feb 25, 2017 13:11:40 GMT
I'm looking forward to this. I thoroughly enjoyed the original and subsequent series.
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Post by gowergirl on Feb 26, 2017 10:52:58 GMT
I have read the first book that this is based on.I really enjoyed it.I wanted to get the second book,but it's £9.99 on Kindle.I'll watch the series instead.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 13:02:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 18:51:20 GMT
I have read the first book that this is based on.I really enjoyed it.I wanted to get the second book,but it's £9.99 on Kindle.I'll watch the series instead. You'll be able to get it from supermarkets for £3.99 once the series is up and running. They'll have a tie in. |
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Post by goodhelenstar on Feb 27, 2017 11:37:34 GMT
I will give this a go but am not hopeful. Sequels and prequels rarely match the originals, and this one has a lot to live up to. That said, Endeavour was every bit as good as Morse, arguably better as he hadn't developed all of Morse's less appealing personality traits and it had the additional advantage of the marvellous Thursday, but less groundbreaking of course.
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Post by bidiein on Feb 28, 2017 11:54:33 GMT
My worry with this is that, in order to enhance the role of Jane Tennyson, the WPC will be carrying out duties that she just would not have been expected to do in the 70s. Doubtless she will be solving crimes left right and centre and making the CID team look hopeless.
The sad reality of the time is that she would have been investigating very mundane matters, working the reception desk and making the tea.
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Post by sootycat on Feb 28, 2017 12:34:41 GMT
I hope this is good. I was a bit sad to read that Lynda La Plante had stepped back from it.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Feb 28, 2017 16:52:40 GMT
That's true. Even in the early Prime Suspects there were female members of the team who made the coffee.
However, Tennison must have had something special to have become the fictional first female DI (I don't think they ever claimed she was the first but she was clearly unusual and she was based on a real first female DI as Lynda la Plante kept telling us). So I'm hoping she'll be a bit like Endeavour, whom we first saw as a DC but who presumably started out in uniform. He's constantly being undermined by everyone except Thursday, but keeps plugging away and solving the crimes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 17:26:20 GMT
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Post by linseed on Mar 2, 2017 22:04:35 GMT
Very very slow. Not that keen on it
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Post by marion on Mar 2, 2017 22:10:22 GMT
I thought it was quite dull, certainly compared to other recent dramas. She didn't really stand out as a character for me.
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Post by geometryman on Mar 2, 2017 22:40:53 GMT
It didn't start well for me - too many laboured references to things like Thin Lizzie & President Nixon which weren't necessary, we could see by the cars, clothes and the odd moustache that this was the seventies. Then there was a bit of incredible detective observation - would a body being moved actually leave drag marks in concrete that were visible, especially when under about an inch of rainwater? I also found most of the music choices intensely irritating, as well as it being far too loud and intrusive.
Having got that out of the way, I thought it got slowly better as it went on. I'll watch another episode.
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Post by vicky on Mar 3, 2017 8:45:18 GMT
Very disappointing. None of the characters came alive for me, most of them being stereotyped in order to make a point. The story line was very slow and the way the police were portrayed seemed a bit far fetched I thought. Was the police procedure for interviewing suspects authentically 1970s I wonder? Did they really intimidate in the way shown last night with no record of what had gone on? I also found the Detective Inspector very difficult to understand. He sounded as though he had a mouthful of cottonwool.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 9:06:55 GMT
Recording of Interviews only became mandatory with PACE. Before that, it was note taking and there was intimidation (sometimes even physical) of suspects and witnesses. This resulted in convictions which had to be quashed.
After the introduction of PACE, as was shown by analysis of these recordings that police officers were very bad interviewers. Many officers went into the interview room assuming guilt, and tailored their questioning to fit that assumption. It’s incredibly damaging to suggestive subjects if they know the officer doesn’t believe them. But also it means that as an interviewer, you only listen to certain parts of the evidence. They ignore things that don’t fit with the script. You can end up with false confessions, they didn't understand that vulnerable people could make false confessions; and you end up with the innocent going to jail, and the guilty walking free.
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