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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 15:52:50 GMT
I have the book waiting at the library. Not my usual thing at all, but I can't wait for tonight's episode.
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Post by geometryman on Jun 28, 2017 17:17:52 GMT
A lot about sex in this one - both now, and in the old world when we saw how June & Luke got together. Offred was playing with fire at the end I think.
Surely Ofglen/Ofsteven/Emily is doomed now, after the car incident - they can't put up with that or trust her any longer to be a well-behaved handmaid. I guess she no longer cared, after all that's happened to her and with her now being no further use to this "mayday" resistance movement. Also I guess the consequences for Moira the week before, if she gets caught, would be severe.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Jul 3, 2017 10:28:11 GMT
I was a bit puzzled by the opening scene this week – where did all that blood come from? I thought the male victims of the regime were hanged.
How ironic that Serena Joy was one of the instigators of the political coup that created Gilead. A case of being careful what you wish for. I suppose she was allowed to address the delegation at the dinner to maintain the pretence that there was some kind of normality there. And also that the ambassador was a woman, who turned out to be useless with her offer of chocolate and complete lack of perception.
Aunt Lydia's reaction to being told to remove the 'damaged' handmaids was interesting. She seems, so far, to have completely bought into the regime, which I guess means that having meted out 'an eye for an eye' punishment (literally, in some cases) to handmaids who transgressed, she believes they are redeemed and should therefore be 'honoured' by attending the dinner. Though I did think she and Janine / Ofwarren lingered longer than was necessary over the 'cross my heart and hope to die' exchange.
Nick seems to be able to wear his own clothes when off duty, unlike everyone else – even Serena Joy's nighties are as blue as everything else.
Presumably the ambassador's assistant is a member of Mayday, or at least has links with it. I wonder if we will see Luke again in the present before the end of this series? Hard to say where it will end as they seem to have covered most of the ground of the book already and we now know there's another series on the way.
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Post by geometryman on Jul 3, 2017 12:38:11 GMT
I think you're right about the blood - when we've seen victims strung up on the wall before, as far as I remember they just looked like they'd been hanged.
Serena Joy's & the other wives' outfits don't look very blue to me, though it depends a bit on the light - more like bottle green.
I was quite surprised at how much the ambassador's assistant knew about June & Luke - as you say, he must at least have connections to "mayday". Did the the ambassador herself know about this, and therefore the actual treatment of handmaids, or has he kept his involvement from her? I assumed she told Offred she couldn't help because her government didn't want to make waves with Gilead.
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Post by pearl06 on Jul 3, 2017 13:12:56 GMT
I think the wives' outfits are various shades of turquoise.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 13:42:43 GMT
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Post by goodhelenstar on Jul 3, 2017 14:53:21 GMT
Interesting article. The wives' outfits are different shades as opposed to the uniform colour of the other groups as the article points out, referring to both 'bird's eye blue' and teal. Serena Joy's long dress, which looked like taffeta, that she wore for the dinner was gorgeous.
Actually I was thinking that the costumes were influenced by the cover of the original novel, where the handmaids have long, flowing red cloaks and lampshade bonnets, and also by the film Witness where the Amish women wear white bonnets very like those of the handmaids below their lampshades.
I wouldn't be surprised if the costume designer gets an award as they are visually stunning and a big part of the overall look of the show.
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Post by marion on Jul 3, 2017 18:44:57 GMT
Well. Serena Joy got sold a pup didn't she?? And I was puzzled by their marriage. Is sex between husbands and wives forbidden now that it won't produce babies? They seemed quite happy in the flashbacks but the marriage is completely sterile now it seems (well until last night's event!). And that Ambassador pi***d me right off! Gender traitor! Are you happy? Yes I love being raped every month, thank you.
I agree it is visually stunning. I too assumed the main influence for the costumes was the book cover.
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Post by cakewalk on Jul 3, 2017 18:54:06 GMT
I see that Children of Men is on one of the film channels tonight at 9pm. I shall watch this and compare it with The Handmaid's Tale.
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Post by marion on Jul 3, 2017 19:30:31 GMT
Oh I really enjoyed that.
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Post by cakewalk on Jul 3, 2017 19:50:54 GMT
Can't wait now!
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Post by geometryman on Jul 15, 2017 18:53:56 GMT
Bit of a different episode last Sunday, being all back story - events leading up to the opening sequence of episode 1, and Luke's adventures since up to the present day. For the first time, I think, a timescale was mentioned for this - 3 years.
Typically the situations are depicted in a matter-of-fact way, but leaving us in no doubt about the awfulness of it all. I was struck by the hundreds of notes & pictures seeking news of loved ones which Luke walked past on the way to his meeting at the end - which was also matter-of-fact, but very moving.
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Post by pearl06 on Jul 15, 2017 21:22:55 GMT
Next episode apparently concentrates on Nick's story. There is an article in my local paper about Max Minghella who is the son of the late Anthony Minghella. The icecream factory is on the Island and Anthony used to work there and in the van selling icecreams on Brading Down!
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Post by marion on Jul 23, 2017 22:14:44 GMT
One thing is puzzling me about Fred and Serena Joy's relationship (well I say one thing!). In the flashback they were very happy, equal and passionate. So why is the relationship so frigid now? They never have sex it seems, yet I would have thought they could be "normal" in the privacy of their own home. Did I miss something?
Poor Janine! But go Moira!!
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Post by cakewalk on Jul 23, 2017 22:37:11 GMT
I'm not sure either, Marion. The 'Word of God' appears to have overwhelmed them - and thus the reason for having intercourse - ie the means to procreate. Of course, if Serena Joy knew June (Offred) and Fred were having sex outside of the marriage I doubt she would take it sitting down (so to speak )
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