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Post by marion on Nov 17, 2019 22:49:48 GMT
I enjoyed it more than I expected. I think that was because I would have happily watched a drama about Amy and George without any Martian invasion. I thought at first the flash forwards were showing a deserted Mars. The little boy is Valentine Warleggan apparently. I have never read the book nor seen it before, only a drama about the famous radio version.
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Post by geometryman on Nov 17, 2019 22:55:53 GMT
I read the book as a boy, didn't see the 1950s version but did see the Tom Cruise version, which I wasn't very impressed with. This is better, so far.
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Post by yankee on Nov 17, 2019 23:41:29 GMT
In the Orson Welles radio drama and the 1950s film the martians died of the flu.
Is that how it was in the book?
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Post by Miranda on Nov 17, 2019 23:45:43 GMT
Yep. Well, not spefically the flu but germs in general.
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Post by yankee on Nov 17, 2019 23:58:12 GMT
You know maybe it wasnt specified as the flu in the film/radio play either. I might have just made that assumption (given the flu can act quick)
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Post by diziet sma on Nov 18, 2019 1:40:21 GMT
I enjoyed this. Didn't notice a fake horse I have to admit.
I wondered when the tripod attacked if it was a metaphor for the British Empire and it's effects on indigenous people. Turning up out of the blue with unimaginable weapons and killing etc. Turns out it was...
from Wikipedia...
Wells said that the plot arose from a discussion with his brother Frank about the catastrophic effect of the British on indigenous Tasmanians. What would happen, he wondered, if Martians did to Britain what the British had done to the Tasmanians? The Tasmanians however lacked the lethal pathogens to defeat their invaders.
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Post by diziet sma on Nov 18, 2019 1:42:29 GMT
If anyone fancies it, the original Orson Welles broadcast is here...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 10:26:16 GMT
The Dogger Bank incident mentioned at the beginning of the episode occurred on the rather cool and chilly night of 21/22 October 1904, when the Baltic Fleet of the Imperial Russian Navy mistook a British trawler fleet from Kingston upon Hull in the Dogger Bank area of the North Sea for Imperial Japanese Navy torpedo boats and fired on them. This places the story, about 10 years after the book.
* For those of you interested in what happened to the Russian fleet after this, they eventually managed to get round to Japan, only to be smashed by the Japanese Imperial Navy in the Battle of Tsushima.
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Post by geometryman on Nov 18, 2019 11:02:49 GMT
Yes, and I noticed they changed the opening of the book from "No one would have believed in the last years of the nineteenth century..." to "No one would have believed in the first years of the 20th century...", which seems to acknowledge that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 11:10:24 GMT
Ooh, I hadn't noticed that.
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Post by spinninghead on Nov 18, 2019 11:53:20 GMT
I see that I'm going to have to read the novel again. But, from what I've seen, there are a 'few' changes. I don't think they work. I'll have to pay attention next week to the titles. I don't think that it's been phelpsed - there was a distinct lack of bad language. Does "sod" count?
The flash-forwards... Why? The whole point of the thing is working out IF mankind will survive... and, if they do, how?
This has been on the shelf for a while, hasn't it? Could the beeb have realised that they had a 'turkey' on their hands, and held off screening it for as long as possible?
Apart from checking the titles on Sunday, I don't think that the rest of the episode will be worth bothering with.
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Post by Miranda on Nov 18, 2019 12:00:13 GMT
I don't think it is a turkey. I really enjoyed it.
And everyone knows that mankind survives so the interest is in seeing how they do it and what kills off the Martians. The flash-forwards confused me slightly at first but once I worked out what was going on I'm interested to see where this will lead us.
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Post by sootycat on Nov 18, 2019 12:01:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 12:09:25 GMT
They are taking it a stage further, and also looking at (1) what were the Martians trying to do in their invasion and (2) what happened to humanity as a result of what they actually did, given what the Martians were trying to do.* In science fiction terms, these are interesting questions; that they are not dealt with so much in the book would therefore be less relevant. To me, the question is do they succeed in this? Do they make it work? *I may have an advantage in having seen Episode 2: {SPOILER:Click to Show}They were trying to reform the earth to be more like their own planet. A bit like the terraforming you hear about when humans go to colonise other planets, in science fiction. This reforming the earth does not stop with the demise of the Martian invaders. |
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