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Post by spinninghead on Dec 3, 2019 9:47:49 GMT
A Christmas Carol... again???
Why?
There are only two that are worth watching... Scrooge, with Alastair Sim, and The Muppet Christmas Carol. There's no point in filming it again (and again, and again...)
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Post by Reithian on Dec 3, 2019 9:56:08 GMT
Phelpsing With regard to A Christmas Carol we should perhaps consider the links that Scrooge had to the slave trade, whether Fezziwig was a closet homosexual and if Tiny Tim had any emergent gender identity issues.
We shall have to wait and see.
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Post by bidiein on Dec 3, 2019 10:10:04 GMT
Roberta Cratchitt recently underwent gender re-alignment.
Tiny Tim has ADHD but is waiting to get an Education Statement.
The Ghost of Christmas Present is being fat shamed on line.
The Fezziwigs are slum landlords who tread on the poor.
And Jacob Marley is the subject of multiple court actions following the #metoo movement.
2 other good versions of the story - George C Scott one and Patrick Stewart.
Bill Murray's Scrooged is also excellent and Blackadder's Christmas Carol - the story in reverse - is very clever.
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Post by sleepyp on Dec 3, 2019 10:16:12 GMT
My fear is that someone will remake It's a Wonderful Life
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Post by bidiein on Dec 3, 2019 10:45:17 GMT
They coloured it in which was bad enough...
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Post by goodhelenstar on Dec 3, 2019 12:06:42 GMT
Well I thought this fizzled out like a damp squib. Demelza saved the day with Ogilvy making some serum which allowed her to grow a plant, and the sun seemed to come through at the end. But other than that I couldn't see how she had managed to stay pregnant and have a healthy child with all this going on and no apparent water source let alone food. I didn't see many Martians either. The "we deserved it for colonising other countries" speech was a bit worthy given the straits they were in at the time. And why were they called George and Amy Thing? A very odd choice of surname, or am I missing a significant point? I agree with all of that. It wasn't at all clear how Amy had managed to give birth in those conditions to a healthy baby and how they'd survived for quite a number of years (Woody Norman who plays George Jr is 10, not sure how old the character is meant to be). The anti-colonial outburst came from left field – not surprising that George would hold those views but as you say, an odd time to choose to stand on a soapbox. I suppose he knew the game was up and he had to say his piece before they all died. I also don't know if Mr and Mrs Thing was a nickname Ogilvy used for some unexplained reason – not in the novel as Amy doesn't appear there. The ray of hope at the end was like an afterthought – too little, too late, with everyone starving to death all around them and too weak or incredulous to follow it through. Ah, well, at least it was only three episodes!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 12:12:41 GMT
Phelpsing With regard to A Christmas Carol we should perhaps consider the links that Scrooge had to the slave trade, whether Fezziwig was a closet homosexual and if Tiny Tim had any emergent gender identity issues.
We shall have to wait and see.
You obviously haven't read Marley by Jon Clinch.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 12:48:15 GMT
I have no problem with the idea of looking at a story from another point of view, which is what this claimed to be; in fact, I find it interesting. However, what they came up with was, in the end, a nonsense. They give us the conceit of using the life of the author to plant in George and Amy, but don't know what to do with it. They insert the false narrative of pompous fools trying to appropriate the meteorites, only to be proven fools by the heroes who really know what is going on -- if only these fools had listened to us. In the book, we get a very clear understanding of who the Martians are, and how they are not invulnerable to the military's weapons , it is just that they have weapons that give them a significant advantage. And it goes on. As for the fate of George, I was thinking that, to be more consistent with the the author as George (and his second wife as Amy), they could have had him going after yet another woman, Wells was a serial adulterer who, even after marrying Amy, fathered at least on child, a daughter in one of his relationships.
The very end was cringeworthy, more suitable for the ending of a film made during the Second World War, reminding us that, even as we face the terrible challenge of teh Third Reich, we have to have hope. I didn't mind it in these films, it was entirely appropriate for the time; but it was stupid and unbelievable here.
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Post by spinninghead on Dec 5, 2019 15:14:45 GMT
"And the Bonekickers Award for Utterly Pointless Television goes to..." Well, go on, have a guess
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