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Post by yankee on Nov 18, 2019 14:22:01 GMT
Often in science fiction Martians or any other alien race invade Earth to colonize, usually because the resources of their home planet have been depleted.
Its usually an allegory for our own destruction of our natural resources or fascination with nuclear war - the big reveal at the end of "The Planet of the Apes" for example.
Incidentally, I saw a blue-ray of Planet of the Apes at the store and the cover art had the Statue of Liberty on it. That seemed a bit of a spoiler but I reckon they figure there aren't many people who haven't seen it at this point.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Nov 18, 2019 15:30:57 GMT
I obviously wasn't paying attention as I didn't realise they were flash forwards, I thought they were the society that the Martians were escaping from.
I also found Amy's horseback riding unconvincing, which is odd as I'm sure she rode in Poldark. Perhaps it was only behind Ross.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 15:40:46 GMT
The first time you saw it, it wasn't immediately obvious that it was a flash-forward. There was just something that looked like a dead tripod at the end of the first of them. Personally, I felt it was an irrelevance to what they were wanting to do, an unnecessary distraction. But it did seem to want to foreshadow for the story line that we were going to be dealing with a very Martian landscape.
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Post by Miranda on Nov 18, 2019 16:22:26 GMT
The first scene of the FF I thought was the Martian landscape. Then was puzzled when the humanoid figures appeared. I would have a bit annoyed if it had been Mars as that is stretching the story too far.
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Post by Miranda on Nov 18, 2019 16:24:00 GMT
As for the horse, she can ride because she was controlling it leaping around when having the JUST GO! conversation with George. It was the bit focussed on her face that was on the fake horse and was a bit unneccessary IMO.
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Post by carrie on Nov 18, 2019 18:17:00 GMT
In the book, red weed starts to grow changing the landscape of the country. I suppose when the book was written they wouldn't have known what was on the surface of Mars, as we all now know there's no vegetation on Mars they've maybe changed that part of the story.
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Post by yankee on Nov 18, 2019 18:31:10 GMT
In the book, red weed starts to grow changing the landscape of the country. I suppose when the book was written they wouldn't have known what was on the surface of Mars, as we all now know there's no vegetation on Mars they've maybe changed that part of the story. I remember Apollo 14 carried with it hundreds of seeds from a variety of trees. I think initially they wanted to see if there was any sort of affect on the seeds if they had been exposed to the surface of the moon or perhaps what might even happen if they tried to scatter some and see if anything took - 'nature finds a way' and they were going to a different part of the moon than other missions. In the end, the only were exposed to being in orbit and then brought back. The seeds were then planted in various areas all over the US. and have grown to maturity. In many cases they were planted alongside indigenous trees of the same variety to see if the moon trees grew any differently.
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Post by diziet sma on Nov 19, 2019 0:27:02 GMT
I haven't read the book, just a synopsis on Wiki. Apparently our hero doesn't have a name or a girlfriend, just a wife he's worried about, but doesn't appear. I am more familiar with the excellent musical by Jeff Wayne. I had always assumed it was faithful to the book, but apparently not.
Anyway, I will keep watching this.
(BTW Planet of the Apes does have a weird ending doesn't it? You find out the apes have built a replica Statue of Liberty, but they never explain why, or why it makes Charlton Heston so angry just cos it fell over. It just ends. Weird).
Fun Fact: The nice ape, Kira, is played by Kim Hunter, who fell in love with David Niven in a Matter of Life and Death (aka the lovely June).
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Post by Miranda on Nov 19, 2019 0:57:43 GMT
It's not a replica. It's the real one buried up to her waist in sand.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Nov 25, 2019 8:17:04 GMT
Anyone still watching? It would appear that George and Amy don't end up together. It's a while since I read the book but I'm not sure Amy is there at all as a character, is she? So then they can do what they like with them in this serialisation, I suppose.
I think they have caught the sense of helplessness and hopelessness in face of an unknown enemy very well, but it is relentlessly bleak; assuming they don't change the end of the book altogether then we know there is hope, but if those red-filtered visions are a post-Martian world it doesn't look as if it's going to be a very jolly future.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Nov 25, 2019 8:27:54 GMT
Here's an audiobook version of the novel for anyone who likes to listen to the radio while doing other things. It's in 17 chapters of 8–10 mins and doesn't appear to be downloadable, so you need to do a lot of streaming. www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07lgzc9
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Post by Gargleblaster on Nov 25, 2019 8:41:25 GMT
It's a pretty dire adaptation of the book. I wonder what the budget was because it seems they were trying to save on electricity since so much of it was filmed seemingly with the lights turned off. What's the point of staring at an almost black screen?
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Post by geometryman on Nov 25, 2019 9:26:43 GMT
No she isn't - that's the biggest departure from the book in what seems otherwise to be a fairly faithful adaptation.
In the book he isn't estranged from his legal wife and is eventually reunited with her. Somehow I don't think that's going to happen in this series ...
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Post by marion on Nov 25, 2019 12:29:16 GMT
I'm still watching and I quite like it but then I have never read the book, nor seen it onscreen before. Considering how used we are to mega budget blockbusters, I think they are doing quite well with the effects.
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Post by linseed on Nov 25, 2019 12:32:20 GMT
From what I heard they have changed the end because it won’t “all go back to normal” once the Martians go, get defeated, die off or whatever. The damage to the planet will be permanent, or at least will take many decades to recover.
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