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Post by marion on Mar 25, 2019 14:29:55 GMT
Thank you, Beverley.
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Mar 25, 2019 18:21:39 GMT
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Post by beverley61 on Mar 25, 2019 18:21:39 GMT
I don't know enough about the Chartists to know whether they protested outside the palace. I do know they were severely dealt with but that's about the limit of my knowledge.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 19:21:06 GMT
It’s a shame that the writer felt she had to change the story, people who don’t know a lot about the Queen’s family members,like me, will take this as factual.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 19:21:57 GMT
I didn’t mean that I’m a member of the family !👸
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Mar 25, 2019 19:50:12 GMT
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Post by beverley61 on Mar 25, 2019 19:50:12 GMT
You might be, got any Germans in the family!!
I enjoy it, but the writer has past history on changing actual history - remember the homosexual theme that she thought she would just add to stir things up. I am concerned that she has said Feodora is cunning and manipulative and causes trouble in the blurb that goes along with the series. Feodora's descendant is still a Prince in Germany he might not take too kindly to it. That's if it is shown in Germany, but I think they might like it there - Victoria was very close to her German relatives and Albert's family too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 19:57:08 GMT
Funnily enough my husband’s grandfather was German ! We were on holiday once in Germany and saw our surname many times on a large chain of very expensive jewellery shops, sadly we can’t find any link and yet it’s a very unusual name so there probably is.
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Mar 25, 2019 21:44:46 GMT
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Post by beverley61 on Mar 25, 2019 21:44:46 GMT
Lots of Germans moved here from George 1 and through Victoria. You see it often in surnames. There were lots of German bakers and butchers that came here for some reason. Bakers I can understand because of watching those programmes about the history of cooking and finding out how the upsurge in the middle classes meant it was considered 'posh' to send out for dessert. Butchers I can't explain, I could guess that cooked meats became popular, but it's just a guess. Do you know where your husbands grandfather was from.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 22:12:00 GMT
We think he was from the north of Germany but unfortunately no one ever asked about it and now there’s no one left who would know. He came here in the early 1900s and married an English woman. I have done some research while doing the family tree, I’ll have to unearth the paperwork.
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Post by undertheparapet on Apr 3, 2019 14:02:03 GMT
I’m rather enjoying Laurence Fox’s turn as Palmerston. Most of the time we see him in parts that are rather downbeat or dour, so it’s a treat to see him lively and intellectually arrogant (which Palmerston, after all, was entitled to be).
There is a bit of an age difference, granted, but Lord P was good looking and appeared much younger and lived to a good age, (politically) dying with his boots still on.
I worry about Mr Fox - does he have it written into his contracts that he must smoke most of time he’s on screen?
I’m sorry John Sessions didn’t get a better role.
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Post by marion on Apr 3, 2019 14:25:38 GMT
I also like Laurence Fox as Palmerston. Things take a turn for the better whenever he is in a scene IMHO.
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Post by sootycat on Apr 3, 2019 15:51:58 GMT
Laurence Fox is my favourite at the moment. I find a lot of it ‘samey’ Has another baby, miserable husband etc.
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Post by geometryman on Apr 4, 2019 7:21:37 GMT
Well, I find myself on Victoria's side in thoroughly disliking the character of Lord Palmerston!
I also think that as with previous series there continues to be too much of the below stairs stuff, and the palace servants behave and speak with royalty in ways I find rather unbelievable.
It is good entertainment though.
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Post by beverley61 on Apr 4, 2019 11:40:01 GMT
I think that considering this was a time of European revolutions even Victoria's peril seemed a bit downplayed. Do we have evidence that she insisted on the Chartists March and Petition going ahead? I thought the govt was pretty harsh on the chartists - hanging and stuff, although I admit to not knowing that much about them. The grim sister isn't working for me at all. She's so far not bad enough?
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Post by undertheparapet on Apr 6, 2019 14:55:23 GMT
I think the half-sister’s personality and plot line is all fictional, isn’t it? Including running off from her husband and kids (without any luggage) and fetching up in a small rowing boat on a beach!!
The history books suggest that the families got on OK on the whole, but maybe Daisy Goodwin knows something we don’t.
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Post by beverley61 on Apr 6, 2019 18:02:55 GMT
No the story line is fictional, the sisters got on well and Feodora was always welcome. I think the writer said she was going to make her a conniving troublemaker to make it more interesting, but she isn't so far and the way it's written they're already dubious about her and unlikely to be tricked.
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