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Post by geometryman on Apr 5, 2017 10:32:27 GMT
We don't - but if cast lists are anything to go by, he isn't in either of the two remaining episodes.
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Post by beverley61 on Apr 5, 2017 11:31:27 GMT
Terribly sad and gut wrenching thing to happen. We don't know what makes a person make that final decision but you have to feel for someone even contemplating it. His poor family.
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Post by profbooboo on Apr 5, 2017 17:49:33 GMT
It's so sad that It's come to this. The total breakdown of his marriage didn't help but not being able to change what happened to Danny or being able to do anything about Joe has probably pushed him as far as he can go. He knows he has a daughter but somewhere in his mind he's probably thinking she'll be better off without him, because he can't get past what's happened to Danny like Beth and his daughter have he's thinking that he's letting them down or dragging things up that they're trying to forget. He misses Danny and maybe wants to be with him. His grief is so all consuming that he can't see beyond it. It's so sad.
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Post by vicky on Apr 5, 2017 19:41:03 GMT
I know, from personal experience, that you have no control over what extreme grief does to you. It just takes over your whole life and you are in a deep black hole. Poor, poor man.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 20:58:53 GMT
"MARK'S ALIVE?!" as Brian Blessed would say "Murrrderrrerrrss!" Hardy went all Taggart there! Never known him so Scottish! Ian gets creepier. The evidence is stacking up against Jim, which probably means it isn't him. But Clive! Dearie dearie me. It's all very vexing.
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Post by bethb63 on Apr 11, 2017 6:51:56 GMT
I loved Hardy going all Glaswegian whenever he got upset. But it did make me laugh, which is probably not the reaction they wanted. Yeah, Mark's survival was a bit convenient. I'm thinking Vicar Paul is having a crisis of faith and may end up leaving the church. Yay! for the newspaper editor. Re the rapist? I have no clue. We still don't even know for sure that the three attacks are linked, and I now doubt that the porn is relevant. Jim is probably too obvious. Maybe... Ian? In a twisted attempt to get Trish to turn back to him? I do now fear for Mrs Taxi Driver. They've left themselves an awful lot to do to create a satisfying conclusion.
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Post by marion on Apr 11, 2017 7:10:20 GMT
I thought Mark jumped off the cliff and was imagining the boat ride!
I have no idea whodunit but I have always hoped it was Twine Boy as he is such a smarmy git or the taxi driver. What is wrong with his wife? I cant work out if she is ill or just in her own world.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 7:33:48 GMT
I'm thinking Vicar Paul is having a crisis of faith and may end up leaving the church. You may well be right, although I no longer think he's connected to the rape. Phew! (Of course, there could still be a twist!)
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Post by goodhelenstar on Apr 11, 2017 7:42:41 GMT
Yes, DT has raked up the Glaswegian in this series. I don't recall him laying it on so thick in previous series. But then his daughter wasn't being threatened then.
I'm disappointed in plot terms that Mark survived, and I do hope we're not heading for a reconciliation with Beth which would be too trite. That said, Andrew Buchan's acting is superb – that dead-behind-the-eyes look and the way he was slumped on the sofa, looking as if he didn't belong there, were heartbreaking. Beth is struggling to match her counselling training with the way she actually feels, with her unprofessional bullying of the rape victim last week and going through the motions with Mark this week while confessing to the vicar that she really wants to punch him in the face. I'm not sure what the message is here – that victims of emotional trauma should think twice before becoming counsellors? But in real life many counsellors do have that background and manage successfully. Whatever, they have conveyed the dilemma of one person struggling to cope and, on the surface, just about managing, while the other really can't, very well.
I also have no idea who the rapist is. I wonder if fewer, longer episodes might help – we saw nothing of Aaron this week, or Tom Miller, or the Axehampton owner, with other more likely suspects given very little screen time. We're being led to think it's Jim, just as last week the focus was on Ed, which makes me think it can't be. Ian? He lies very easily and has his chirpy 'I really miss you' act off to perfection. But would Trish not know if she'd been raped by her own husband? Perhaps not if she was very drunk, had been bashed on the head and was frightened for her life.
I'm leaning towards Lucas the taxi driver with his trophy drawer and hope his wife makes it out of the garage alive. I was impressed by Leo, blue twine boy, managing to look vulnerable after being such a creep up to this point. I wonder who his father is and if it matters to the story?
I hadn't realised that Katie was being drummed out of the police altogether, unless she just meant that she had been taken off this case. But either way, she really shouldn't have touched that bag without wearing gloves!
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Post by sootycat on Apr 11, 2017 11:09:44 GMT
I thought Mark jumped off the cliff and was imagining the boat ride! So did I, and I wasn't convinced he had died because he seemed to float and not sink. Still haven't a clue who did it though.
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Post by geometryman on Apr 11, 2017 11:13:07 GMT
I've no idea either. Yes, the finger was very much on Jim this episode, then Lucas and his trophies at the end. Knowing how Broadchurch likes to spring surprises on us though, I still don't reckon it's any of the major suspects Jim/Ed/Ian/Lucas, and I'm pretty sure Aaron was a red herring (or should that be red mackerel?).
I'm still suspicious of the Axehampton House owner. He said the site by the waterfall, where Trish was raped, had been his special place as a boy where no-one could see him. Also the nearby house, where the light Trish saw may have come from - is it part of the estate? We never heard any more about that. Plus it's a bit odd that (so he said) his wife had gone round and collected a wheelbarrow full of things (minus one cricket bat) which the police had earlier failed to find, and convenient noticing his dog was carrying a sock around which he then reported. He doesn't have an alibi for the night in question, because he said his wife was out to dinner but he stayed home with the dogs. If he's not the perpetrator, he could be covering for someone else. Or, he could be nothing to do with it, and we may not see him again...
The DNA of one of their suspects has now been identified on the sock - if that's Leo's DNA, it could be just because he wore it playing football. I too wondered who Leo's father is and whether it's important.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Apr 11, 2017 11:24:12 GMT
I'll be quite annoyed if Axehampton Man is the rapist as we've seen so little of him that we're not invested in him as a character. It has just occurred to me – could he be Leo's father? Wealthy, a bit distant. Have children been mentioned? Leo said his parents divorced when he was a teenager, though, so that doesn't fit if they're both telling the truth (and surely the police would have checked).
As you say, it wouldn't be surprising if Leo's DNA was on the sock, or Axehampton Man who handled it before giving it to the police. Clive or Michael Lucas might also have been wearing it as they play in the football team. So, as Hardy and Miller were surprised at the result, that suggests it's someone else who wouldn't have a legitimate reason for handling it. What was it that Ian was putting in the washing machine in an earlier episode – his clothes from the party or football gear? I can't remember.
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Post by vicky on Apr 11, 2017 11:36:57 GMT
Hardy said the DNA on the sock was a match for "one of our men". When Miller came across to see who it was on his computer screen, the look on both their faces was one of total shock....so, is it someone who hasn't been in the frame? The case against that scenario is that we then saw all of the suspects in turn befie the credits came on. My money's still on the vicar; that would explain the shock!
I did enjoy Hardy's rant at those boys...but I had to put the subtitles on for it! If he ranted at me like that and fixed me with one of those fierce glares I think I would want to shrivel up and die!
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Post by geometryman on Apr 11, 2017 13:31:23 GMT
His clothes from the party - near the end of episode 2, at about 57m 20s - and he scrubbed his shoes. In the next episode he told Jim he'd lied to the police about how he got home from the party, he'd actually got very drunk and couldn't remember anything, woke up on the ground beside the lake.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 15:51:58 GMT
My money's still on the vicar; that would explain the shock! Nothing we've seen so far has indicated that Paul is one of "their men" - there's been no suggestion that he even knew Cath et al, never mind was at the party. I shall be very annoyed if it turns out he was on the list of suspects all along, even though it's never been mentioned before. That would feel like a massive cheat.
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