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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 19:11:32 GMT
They've left themselves an awful lot to do to create a satisfying conclusion. Yes, indeed! That's probably why Mark got rescued. Effectively covering the aftermath of his suicide would take a lot more screen time than a hospital bedside conversation.
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Post by hoodylover on Apr 11, 2017 19:53:36 GMT
I think the taxi driver looks the most likely, but I'm not often right at guessing Whodunnit. Mrs Taxi Driver totally freaks me out. I think she's seriously scary.
I was glad Trish's daughter organised the walk of the women through Broadchurch. That was totally amazing and made me quite emotional. Even Hardy's wet weekend of a daughter turned out for it. I loved the Glaswegian rant at the three boys and the way they slunk away like the cowardly bullies such people are. I would be totally intimidated by Hardy, if he was a real person and I knew him. When he goes off on one he's particularly scary. Ellie can be quite volatile too though.
Brilliant series and I'm really going to miss it!
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Post by profbooboo on Apr 11, 2017 22:06:56 GMT
I loved the Glaswegian rant at the three boys and the way they slunk away like the cowardly bullies such people are. I would be totally intimidated by Hardy, if he was a real person and I knew him. When he goes off on one he's particularly scary. Yeah, he was so good, Hardy: You boys you wee babies you think you're men. You hurt my girl. So from now on I am gonna be watching everything you do. I'm gonna be watching everything your parents do, everything your family does. If any one of you so much as even belch when you shouldn't I will be there. Boy: You threatening us? Hardy: No son, I'm instructing you. Do you know what I do in my job? Do ya? I deal with murderers and brutal thugs and sex offenders and I win. I get the better of them so don't for a second imagine I will break a sweat getting you in line. Any of you come near, in fact you even talk to, no no, you even talk about my daughter ever again let alone do anything to make her unhappy I will find you and I will cut your tiny little c*cks off. Boy: You can't say to us, you're the police. Hardy: I'm a father and I will do whatever in necessary to protect my daughter. Right p*ss off! I love the last line. It's delivered both aggression and disregard.
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Post by profbooboo on Apr 11, 2017 22:11:03 GMT
I don't have a clue who it is. I just don't think it's one of the main suspects as it'd be too obvious. I've even started to wonder if it was Hardy! Did they say it started 2yrs ago! I just don't know. I think most people are guessing the garage owner or the taxi driver, Ed or the husvand but I think there could be a twist. The football sock is giving a clue to someone younger. But one episode left and so many questions. 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 23:14:23 GMT
Sorry I just don't get the younger ones, not to be horrible to Trish but you'd have to have a lot of drink to want to rape her. Then again she must have some appealing qualities, her husband still 'loves' her, the garage bloke shagged her although I think he'd hump a vacuum cleaning hose if it were available. I'm still thinking about the bloke who originally got done for rape but says it wasn't true, or the Lord of the manor who found the sock. Truly, it's so well written it could be any of them.
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Post by profbooboo on Apr 12, 2017 0:28:29 GMT
Sorry I just don't get the younger ones, not to be horrible to Trish but you'd have to have a lot of drink to want to rape her. I don't think it's about her looks but the power and control the rapist has over the person, making them feel scarred, ashamed, humiliated, dirty and carry those feels through life and into other relationship. I think Julie Hesmondhalgh was wary of the role thinking she wasn't pretty enough to be a rape victim or something to that effect that I read in an interview.... this isn't the article I read but is a different one with Hesmondhalgh. www.whatsontv.co.uk/news/julie-hesmondhalgh-cast-rape-victim-broadchurch-454110/
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 6:21:53 GMT
Rape is largely about opportunity, isn't it? Who the victim is is often a secondary consideration.
I, too, can't call it. Still loads of potential perps in the frame. And the vicar is in the mix, as far as I'm concerned. What are the bookie odds on each character, do we know? (I assume the opportunity to bet on the outcome exists.)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 7:28:21 GMT
Rape is largely about opportunity, isn't it? They seem to have been working on the basis that the attack was planned, but it's not clear if Trish specifically was the intended victim, or if the perpetrator would have raped any woman who was in a suitably vulnerable position.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Apr 12, 2017 10:42:42 GMT
Are they? I missed that. Why – because of the condom wrapper? But it's not unthinkable that any bloke attending the party might go equipped just in case, as it turns out Jim Atwood had. Blue twine was also involved, but it does seem to be ubiquitous in Broadchurch!
Something else I noticed on rewatching: Ellie said that Laura Benson had confirmed it was Jim Atwood's breakdown service she called out. Laura was the blonde woman who took a shortcut home from the pub in Kingsbere in the early hours. She wasn't driving. It was Nira, the dark-haired woman who wouldn't go to the police, who was attacked while walking home after the breakdown service didn't turn up. Am I missing something or is this either a continuity error or something that will come into play next week? Also, the date of Laura's attack was 2 June in her interview and 7 June when the police were questioning people this week. 7 June 2014 was a Saturday; 2 June was a Monday. So did Laura get confused in her interview or is this another continuity error?
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Post by marion on Apr 12, 2017 12:11:08 GMT
Well I am glad you said that about Laura the blonde victim because when Ellie said that I thought to myself that she took the shortcut across the fields. I had no recollection of a car problem. But given my memory these days I assumed I had forgotten!
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Post by goodhelenstar on Apr 12, 2017 13:08:44 GMT
It does seem an odd continuity error, unless it's not an error and all will be revealed next week!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 14:36:41 GMT
Are they? I missed that. Why – because of the condom wrapper? But it's not unthinkable that any bloke attending the party might go equipped just in case, as it turns out Jim Atwood had. Blue twine was also involved, but it does seem to be ubiquitous in Broadchurch! IIRC it was the twine which made them think it was more than an opportunistic attack. As a rule it's not something you'd take to a party (well, I wouldn't!).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 15:43:54 GMT
Are they? I missed that. Why – because of the condom wrapper? But it's not unthinkable that any bloke attending the party might go equipped just in case, as it turns out Jim Atwood had. Blue twine was also involved, but it does seem to be ubiquitous in Broadchurch! Something else I noticed on rewatching: Ellie said that Laura Benson had confirmed it was Jim Atwood's breakdown service she called out. Laura was the blonde woman who took a shortcut home from the pub in Kingsbere in the early hours. She wasn't driving. It was Nira, the dark-haired woman who wouldn't go to the police, who was attacked while walking home after the breakdown service didn't turn up. Am I missing something or is this either a continuity error or something that will come into play next week? Also, the date of Laura's attack was 2 June in her interview and 7 June when the police were questioning people this week. 7 June 2014 was a Saturday; 2 June was a Monday. So did Laura get confused in her interview or is this another continuity error? Good points! Surely the script writers would not make an error of that magnitude ... and if they did, wouldn't Olivia or David point it out to them?
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Post by geometryman on Apr 12, 2017 15:58:25 GMT
Are they? I missed that. Why – because of the condom wrapper? But it's not unthinkable that any bloke attending the party might go equipped just in case, as it turns out Jim Atwood had. Blue twine was also involved, but it does seem to be ubiquitous in Broadchurch! IIRC it was the twine which made them think it was more than an opportunistic attack. As a rule it's not something you'd take to a party (well, I wouldn't!). The perp may not have been a party guest, as the venue seemed to have been easily gatecrash-able. But you're right, Hardy has assumed it was planned from very early on. - From my extracted subtitles ( ) - episode 1, around 57m 25s, when Ellie went to Hardy's house in the middle of the night: Ellie: "Trish called me and told me her attacker put something in her mouth to gag her." Hardy: "Yeah. I just got initial forensics." Ellie: "And?" Hardy: "Cloth fibres found in her mouth swabs confirms what she's told you. They also found traces of blue fisherman's twine in her wrist wounds where he tied her up. And her attacker definitely used a condom when he raped her." Ellie: "Oh, God." Hardy: "I have to make this a Gold Incident, Miller. This wasn't opportunistic, it was planned and premeditated. Trish's attacker went to that party intending to commit rape. Which means we have a sexual predator who is a danger to the public."
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Post by geometryman on Apr 12, 2017 17:33:32 GMT
Well spotted! Looks like the 2nd./7th. June dates were a continuity error, or else Laura was mis-remembering and it will be significant. I suppose Jim could have been called out to Laura earlier in the day, or in the week - Ellie said "just before the attack" which is a bit vague.
At least Laura and Jim both seem to agree she did use his garage services, whereas Nira's breakdown truck never showed up and I don't think we've seen any evidence that it was in fact Jim's garage that she called. What Laura and Nira have in common is that they were both attacked in a field - Nira said she was walking across a field after abandoning her car.
I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think I've ever called a garage directly when I've broken down - it's always been a central number manned by AA/RAC/Green Flag/insurance company etc., who then sent out their most conveniently situated operator. I never really noticed and certainly can't remember who actually turned up to help me!
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