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Post by goodhelenstar on Apr 18, 2017 9:54:09 GMT
I thought that Chloe was happy that Mark was temporarily living with them once again, hoping her parents would reconcile I'm glad in plot terms that didn't happen and thought the hot chocolate drinking scene was very well written and played. Chloe was grown up enough to accept it, or perhaps it was just part of the writer's need to provide a positive ending for as many of the main players as possible. I did find the ending a bit saccharine, but given that so much has been made of this being the last time we'll see them all, I suppose that's understandable.
Some great acting from Twine Boy, whose assumed vulnerability last week was quite convincing, but who turned out to be a psychopath. I was also very impressed with Sebastian Armesto as Clive Lucas, who I last saw in Poldark and Apple Tree Yard, playing slimy characters there too but without the protectiveness and desperation he showed here. Presumably his trophy drawer was a collection to remind him of things he'd like to have done but never did. And then his son actually did what he never did himself.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Apr 18, 2017 9:58:52 GMT
Me too, though in plot terms it would have made more sense. As it is, that was quietly dropped and he joined in the general bonhomie at the end.
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Post by sleepyp on Apr 18, 2017 10:48:23 GMT
I must have been still in shock after those dreadful, callous words from Leo ... what had the vicar done apart from decide to move on? Oh, I shall miss Hardy and Miller Sorry, the vicar hadn't done anything criminal. I said last week he was having a crisis of faith and would leave the church. Thanks Beth
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Post by sootycat on Apr 18, 2017 11:27:38 GMT
I was not expecting that. What a total Psychopath Leo was.
I'll miss Broadchurch.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 13:10:30 GMT
I did find the ending a bit saccharine, but given that so much has been made of this being the last time we'll see them all, I suppose that's understandable. Yes, the church sermon scene was a bit cloying, but, as you say, it did draw it all together ...and around Danny's resting place, for added poignancy. Best acting for me was Mark. So believable. That and the relationship between Ellie and Alec held it all together over 3 series.
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Post by kabuki on Apr 18, 2017 15:07:44 GMT
I was a bit underwhelmed by the ending. I did think the son might be involved a while back. And I did think for some reason would have a twist from earlier in the series. Still great acting all round.
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Post by beverley61 on Apr 18, 2017 15:15:24 GMT
I went to let the dog out and came back and they were all in church. Why? Did they all go to give thanks the rapist had been caught or was there another reason they were all there, it just seemed strange, they didn't all look like the kind of people who would be regularly going to church. I obviously missed something??
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Post by carrie on Apr 18, 2017 15:56:18 GMT
I went to let the dog out and came back and they were all in church. Why? Did they all go to give thanks the rapist had been caught or was there another reason they were all there, it just seemed strange, they didn't all look like the kind of people who would be regularly going to church. I obviously missed something?? Maggie the journalist convinced them all to come because it was going to be the vicar's last sermon.
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Post by hoodylover on Apr 18, 2017 18:59:39 GMT
An excellent ending to an excellent programme. I'm so sorry there won't be any more. I love Hardy & Miller. I plumped for the taxi driver, so totally got it wrong, but I'm really pleased it wasn't Tom. Ellie suffered enough over Joe.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 22:16:11 GMT
Afraid the ending left me cold, still out there maybe ready to abuse another lad is the original perpetrator and all we got was a broken home from the poor lad's family. I wasn't expecting hearts and romance but this last series seemed concocted, maybe I'm old fashioned but I can't believe a young lad could so easily be coerced into shagging his friend's girlfriend and then after being smacked in the mouth to raping someone else. Would he, after a load of drink be able to commit rape anyway knowing it was a terrible thing and then allow it to be taped? What a plonker. The other thing that let it down was one of total incredulity, Miller's looking at the map and found in an instance the place where a car showed the license plate perfectly, from a CCTV camera conveniently 'recently' placed on a lay-by on a country road. Jeez, councils up and down the country must be rolling in money. I've loved Broadchurch and will miss it but it deserved a better ending.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 9:18:34 GMT
In some ways the endings of all three series were let-downs. Maybe that is the price to be paid for keeping the viewers on tenterhooks til the last episode.
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Post by geometryman on Apr 19, 2017 10:43:37 GMT
I agree, I thought that. I didn't buy that this 16-year-old would be induced to do those things, from what we'd seen of him. He didn't appear lonely, as Leo claimed - he had his mates from school who he was with when they knocked on Hardy's door (and later when Hardy laid into them over the photos of Daisy), he was friends with Tom Miller, he was in the football team.
Leo on the other hand - from a broken home, parents divorced, mother gone, father never around - was a lot more credible. I can well believe there are monsters like him.
Yes, I found that scene almost laughable. There were quite a few very convenient things in the series as a whole, but the last episode felt particularly rushed. Too much time spent earlier on red herrings I think, and not enough on developing the main story lines.
That said, I did enjoy this series, which I thought was considerably better than the second one. The endings for most of the characters seemed reasonable, though the ex newspaper editor's vlog was a bit of a joke. The one I felt most sorry for was Lindsay Lucas, with her son now presumably heading for a Young Offender Institution, and her marriage in even more tatters than before, none of which was her fault. Also Katie, whose career in the police seems over or at best blighted - what's she going to do with her life now? She might have become closer to her father, who I gather she didn't have much to do with before this case led her to contact him, but by the end as she said to Ellie she no longer knew how far she could believe him.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Apr 19, 2017 10:44:31 GMT
I think you're right. It had to be one of the suspects so whoever it was, there was always going to be an 'Oh, is that it?' moment. For the writer, the tricky bit is having enough red herrings to confuse, while still leaving enough clues to the actual perpretrator. I thought rather too much was made of the blue twine, with everyone in Broadchurch, it seemed, using it for something. And I'd have liked something more to be made of the Tom Miller strand of the story, to link it back to series 1. As it was, the whole Latimer thread didn't really link to the new case and Tom was there so that we could see Michael looking uncomfortable.
But we all think we can do better ... hats off to Chris Chibnall for a satisfying story and I wish him well for the next few years on Dr Who.
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Post by geometryman on Apr 19, 2017 10:53:14 GMT
As a non-fan of Doctor Who, I'd prefer Chris Chibnall to be writing another Broadchurch, or something completely new.
That flipping blue twine! - I still don't know why Leo had it in a farm shop bag, when he ran a factory that was full of it...
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Post by vicky on Apr 19, 2017 11:36:02 GMT
I live in a farming village and I don't suppose there are many of us, even those like me who aren't connected with farming, who haven't used orange baler twine for something, at some time. It is good, strong stuff and is easily bought at the local agricultural merchants. Someone said of the blue twine in Broadchurch that fishermen used it. In a seaside community where fishing is a regular activity, it is no doubt their equivalent of our orange twine so I found that aspect totally credible.
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