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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 20:17:47 GMT
I have mixed feelings about this forthcoming adaptation of Thackery's Regency satire. I have a great fondness for the terrific 1998 BBC version, which was generally very faithful. From the trailers and what I have read, ITV have taken a looser approach, cutting, combining and renaming characters, for example. Unless they've dramatically changed things, however, I assume the trailer is misleading in the amount of combat displayed, deliberately packing in an excess of the Waterloo section in order to make the series seem for action-packed.
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Post by marion on Aug 19, 2018 21:09:48 GMT
Did I hear mention of it using tracks like Madonna's Material Girl?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 21:21:35 GMT
Over the credits, apparently. It's part of making it modern and relevant to a younger audience  |
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Post by Delia on Aug 21, 2018 9:52:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 10:43:43 GMT
Delia,we all know that only the young watch television so everything has to be accessible to them,words of one syllable,short scenes that don’t require concentration with loud background music to keep the poor little dears ‘engaged’.
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Post by sootycat on Aug 21, 2018 11:06:02 GMT
Not sure whether I fancy this version.
I watched this back in the day with Eve Matheson playing the lead character...It was terrific.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 20:04:33 GMT
Delia,we all know that only the young watch television so everything has to be accessible to them,words of one syllable,short scenes that don’t require concentration with loud background music to keep the poor little dears ‘engaged’.
I often wonder if 'young people' (whatever they are) genuinely find these gimmicks engaging or if it's just some TV exec or marketing expert's idea of how to appeal to them. Speaking as a mere 35 year old (yes, I know I don't qualify as young anymore) all I ask for is a good plot, good acting and decent and (ideally, although I realise this is asking a lot) audible dialogue.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 21:34:57 GMT
I’m quite sure it’s what the TV execs think is what people want.
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Post by deansay on Aug 21, 2018 21:47:42 GMT
Vanity Fair is not one of my favourites. Becky Sharpe character irritates the hell out of me, so I might record it, just to see what it's like or skip it entirely.
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Post by beverley61 on Aug 22, 2018 11:14:06 GMT
Delia,we all know that only the young watch television so everything has to be accessible to them,words of one syllable,short scenes that don’t require concentration with loud background music to keep the poor little dears ‘engaged’.
I often wonder if 'young people' (whatever they are) genuinely find these gimmicks engaging or if it's just some TV exec or marketing expert's idea of how to appeal to them. Speaking as a mere 35 year old (yes, I know I don't qualify as young anymore) all I ask for is a good plot, good acting and decent and (ideally, although I realise this is asking a lot) audible dialogue.
Speaking as someone with two younger people in the family that are literature nuts and one of whom loves Thackeray I can say wholeheartedly that they don't find it engaging when plots and characters are changed, lost or merged. There are rarely superfluous characters that speak. There may be an inn keeper that says something like "He's in the stables" or "It's the only room I have available" etc. but that in itself is not superfluous as it tells you what is happening.
I have to be honest though they probably don't mind the music but one gets very irate when costumes of the period are not observed, carriages are not correct and people aren't addressed the way they would have been. The social requisites of the period being part of the reason people behaved the way they do. One of them has two degrees and a Masters in English so no, words of one syllable and short scenes are not required.
I don't think those things are an age issue. Many people watching will have no prior knowledge of the story line, author or time period and for them this is a completely new theme and that is why they try to make it more accessible and also the shorter scenes allow the adverts to come in. Everything new isn't bad, but I know they will both be cross if there are major changes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 11:23:22 GMT
My sarcasm was aimed at the TV companies not at young people in general Beverley.
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Post by Dame Bouncy Castle on Aug 22, 2018 18:36:29 GMT
ITV’s William Makepeace Thackeray adaptation Vanity Fair will premiere on Sunday September 2nd at 9pm.
The second episode will then air on Monday September 3rd at 9pm, before the show settles into its regular Sunday night 9pm time-slot.
Vanity Fair is set against the backdrop of the Napoleonic Wars, and follows Becky Sharp as she attempts to claw her way out of poverty and scale the heights of English Society. Her story of “villainy, crime, merriment, lovemaking, jilting, laughing, cheating, fighting and dancing”, takes her all the way to the court of King George IV, via the Battle of Waterloo, breaking hearts and losing fortunes as she goes.
The seven episode drama series, which was written by Gwyneth Hughes (Dark Angel, The Girl, Miss Austen Regrets), stars Olivia Cooke (Bates Motel), Tom Bateman (Murder On The Orient Express), Charlie Rowe (Salvation), Johnny Flynn (Genius), Martin Clunes (Doc Martin), Frances de La Tour (The History Boys), Suranne Jones (Doctor Foster), Michael Palin (Monty Python), Claudia Jessie (Line of Duty), Simon Russell Beale (Penny Dreadful) and Claire Skinner (Outnumbered).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 18:43:25 GMT
A minor side annoyance: I keep seeing articles describing it as being set in the Victorian era. Yes, the book is Victorian but the setting is Georgian/Regency!
When Windsor Castle had its 'Waterloo 200' exhibition in 2015, one of the exhibits was a first edition of the book from the Royal Library, open at the chapter describing the Duchess of Richmond's Ball. I bet you didn't wish to know that!
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Post by undertheparapet on Aug 23, 2018 16:35:13 GMT
Appealing to a younger audience?
Erm - hasn’t Madonna just had her 60th birthday??
Oi! You young middle-aged production twits at the BBC - just get yourself sorted, why don’t you?
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Post by undertheparapet on Aug 23, 2018 16:39:19 GMT
Appealing to a younger audience? Erm - hasn’t Madonna just had her 60th birthday?? Oi! You young middle-aged production twits at the BBC - just get yourself sorted, why don’t you? Ah, it’s ITV..........but who can blame me? Some of these “ sitting round a table coming up with beezer wheezes” types are all the same. |
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