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Post by marion on Sept 23, 2016 12:30:46 GMT
The only negative is that I doubt Lord M will be in it! Didn't they fall out quite early on in her marriage after he made a disparaging comment about Albert?
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Post by marion on Sept 26, 2016 8:28:40 GMT
Well, I had my doubts about him being in series two, but horror upon horror, Lord M wasn't in it tonight. I mean seriously!!!! No Lord M....  |
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Post by sootycat on Sept 26, 2016 11:34:26 GMT
You learn something everyday don't you. Who would have thought that jumping up and down 10 times was a form of birth control...Bet it doesn't work.  Sad no Lord M. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 11:36:22 GMT
All the children V&A had is not exactly an endorsement of the method!  |
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Post by vicky on Sept 26, 2016 16:33:19 GMT
What has happened to Baron Stockmar in this version of the Victoria and Albert story? He was their trusted advisor, appointed by Uncle Leopold, who moved from Coburg to England when Albert married and he was very much a power behind the throne. He was distrusted by the politicians and came into conflict with Baroness Lehtzen because of his influence with the Queen. He devised an educational plan for the Prince of Wales (later Edward VII) which caused problems. I haven't noticed his appearance in the programme yet: he was such an important and influential figure, surely he hasn't been left out of the story. Maybe he will appear when Edward (Bertie) does.
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Post by technicolour on Sept 26, 2016 19:43:08 GMT
What has happened to Baron Stockmar in this version of the Victoria and Albert story? He was their trusted advisor, appointed by Uncle Leopold, who moved from Coburg to England when Albert married and he was very much a power behind the throne. He was distrusted by the politicians and came into conflict with Baroness Lehtzen because of his influence with the Queen. He devised an educational plan for the Prince of Wales (later Edward VII) which caused problems. I haven't noticed his appearance in the programme yet: he was such an important and influential figure, surely he hasn't been left out of the story. Maybe he will appear when Edward (Bertie) does. I wondered the same last night. I'm not sure at what stage he turns up though as Albert's brother has only just left. It will be interesting to see if they've written him out!
Meanwhile - is anyone interested in the servant subplot?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 20:20:33 GMT
The servant subplot is getting pretty silly. As if a chef to the Queen would venture into an area being blocked to the public as being dangerously infected. He could have carried the disease into the palace, and led to infection of any number of important people, including the Queen. It's like having a dollop of Downton inserted for the sake of it.
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Post by vicky on Sept 27, 2016 17:01:27 GMT
No!
Stockmar played a big part (at Leopold's instigation) in introducing Albert to Victoria. We should have been seeing him for several weeks by now.
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Post by technicolour on Sept 27, 2016 19:34:26 GMT
No! Stockmar played a big part (at Leopold's instigation) in introducing Albert to Victoria. We should have been seeing him for several weeks by now. Thanks for refreshing my memory. I knew he should be on the scene by the time they're married but forgot he was actually around before that.
I hope they are going to sort this out. There is not really any excuse for such an omission!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2016 17:15:21 GMT
The servant subplot is getting pretty silly. As if a chef to the Queen would venture into an area being blocked to the public as being dangerously infected. He could have carried the disease into the palace, and led to infection of any number of important people, including the Queen. It's like having a dollop of Downton inserted for the sake of it. Well quite. He seems to be 'the' chef too. In Victoria's reign the kitchen staff of Windsor Castle consisted of 35+, and Buckingham Palace had its own complete team of a similar size. Then there's the rest of the servants, too - or rather, there isn't. The Royal Household appears to consist of about half-a-dozen people who follow the Queen from residence to residence and all sit together at one table. Okay for something like Downton, but at the palaces there would have been scores of staff all with their own hierarchies, duties, dining halls etc etc. |
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Post by Miranda on Sept 28, 2016 21:06:26 GMT
There would be more than one chef in her staff as well. There would be at least 3, each in charge of a different section.
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Post by vicky on Sept 29, 2016 11:49:25 GMT
Let's hope the "downstairs" element is dropped in the second series. It is so obviously a direct lift from Downton and it just doesn't work here, nor does it add anything to the story. Quite the reverse imo.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2016 19:47:19 GMT
There would be more than one chef in her staff as well. There would be at least 3, each in charge of a different section. Just checked my books. Windsor had a Chief Cook, four Cooks beneath him and six Apprentice Cooks and Pastry Cooks. They formed part of the 400+ Servants at the Castle. |
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Post by Miranda on Sept 29, 2016 20:04:31 GMT
Thought there would be loads. Thanks Norman.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2016 19:50:12 GMT
also I suppose to reflect Candle light it appeared quite dull, perhaps if they get gas lights it will brighten up a bit
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Anymore to come?
