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Post by beverley61 on Jul 2, 2023 11:10:44 GMT
Yes, they did, even though the ancestors wife was the daughter of a freed woman called Daria. They presented it as this wonderful mixed marriage (which it was by all accounts) between the mixed race Javeneses daughter of a fabulously wealthy plantation owner and a Dutch engineer and never mentioned hoe her family got so wealthy in the first place.
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Post by Miranda on Jul 6, 2023 22:22:39 GMT
Just watching this week's and finding it annoying. She seems fake in her reactions to me. Her family come from Liverpool and half of them are called McCartney. Of course she's bloody Irish! For her to pretend that she didn't know wound me up a bit.
And she must have mentioned being related to Sir Paul McCartney about 5 times in 10 mins. And why she was proud of it, I don't know. It's not her achievement.
Some of it was interesting. The football background and the whistling. I just don't like her very much. She acts like her family were the only ones that went through stuff. Not that they went through much.
ETA: Well except for the one fella.
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Post by pearl06 on Jul 7, 2023 5:27:04 GMT
I was in two minds about watching that this week. I don't think I'll bother now.
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Post by marion on Jul 7, 2023 8:14:25 GMT
Same here, an hour saved for tennis then!
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Post by Miranda on Jul 7, 2023 9:44:39 GMT
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Post by beverley61 on Jul 7, 2023 11:56:37 GMT
I watched and thought, how hard are you trying to be famous. With such a connected 'showbiz' family how did she not know most of this. Sure, they're not A listers but they have been in the business for ages.
As to Great Aunty Doreen, I would have like to know more about what happened to her and not the waste of time bit about Paul McCartney. Considering she could whistle a tune and said her dad could too, then I think Aunty Doreen wasn't that much of a mystery.
Of course she knew she was part Irish, just like she knew she was part-Welsh.
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Post by linseed on Jul 7, 2023 15:34:03 GMT
I missed it because of the tennis, so may not bother to catch up
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Post by vicky on Jul 8, 2023 12:15:03 GMT
I confess that I had never heard of her or her mother before watching this. I was intrigued beforehand to find out what it was that she did that made her "famous".
I am such a genealogy nut that I will watch anything connected with it.
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Post by Miranda on Jul 8, 2023 13:18:06 GMT
Her mom often appeared in Victoria Woods comedies. She played Babs in Dinner Ladies and was completely unrecognisable and utterly brilliant! "I come from Urmston."
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Post by linseed on Jul 8, 2023 13:32:21 GMT
I’d only heard of her through I’m a Celebrity
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Post by marion on Jul 14, 2023 8:31:11 GMT
Anyone know who this week’s celeb is, and was the show any good? His name rings no bells for me.
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Post by Miranda on Jul 14, 2023 9:17:24 GMT
You might remember him from Strictly. He danced with Diane.
I found it interesting. And not at all what I was expecting.
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Post by vicky on Jul 14, 2023 10:49:47 GMT
It was quite interesting, especially the Irish bit but then I am part Irish myself and am interested in the history of the Easter Uprising. I had no idea who he was beforehand but I found him an engaging personality who took an intelligent interest in the research which isn't always the case in this programme!
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Post by beverley61 on Jul 14, 2023 11:47:50 GMT
Yes he came across very well. I did fall asleep during the Jamaica bit and only woke up at the cemetery scene. I did wonder why they didn't look into the early suggestion as to why the children were sent to eleocution lessons and had no connection whatsoever with Ireland again. Nobody went back once they came to London. That is unusual because most people I know go back regularly and have done for many many years.
Also I felt they skimmed the bit about the IVB and assassinations. They were notorious not just for assassinations but house burnings and often torture and disfigurement. There are still open cases and families fighting to find out what happened to their relatives in Clare all these years later. But hey, let's call them all heroes, why not, let's fudge what they were really doing because it's nice to think these freedom fighters were all good guys and the Irish are lovely aren't they. Let's pretend your relative who was working in 'intelligence' was sending the post and not setting up a murder somewhere or arranging for someone to have his eyes put out.
I am saying this as someone with Irish family and thinks there should be honesty and openness on both sides.
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Post by Miranda on Jul 14, 2023 12:15:54 GMT
I was also uncomfortable with that. There was a lot missed out and they were presented as heroes. It was a nasty dirty war and neither side comes out of it well. But you wouldn't know that from this programme.
The Jamaican side was interesting cos it didn't immediately go to slavery like it usually does. And there were interesting sidelights on marriage and social convention in the story of his grandparents.
As usual, it was the things that were not said that were the interesting parts!
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Anymore to come?
