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Post by kakewalk on Mar 7, 2023 13:38:24 GMT
Having never watched any of the previous series of this, I’ve come to it with new eyes. I’m enjoying it so far (no idea why we never watched it before really). The new DI is incredibly irritating with her private life, so dismissive of the team’s past efforts and methods. Presumably, this series will show her coming round to their way of thinking.
In the meantime, I have started watching series 1 on ITV X before I go to bed 😆
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Post by vicky on Mar 7, 2023 15:29:31 GMT
We're all different: I enjoyed the episode so much that I found the hour had passed too quickly and I was surprised when it finished. It's interesting to watch the antipathy between the new DSI and Sunny and the rest of the team develop. I wonder what is going to happen to cause them to bond....which I assume will happen eventually. Some of the story strands are starting to come together with the restauranteur revealed as the victim's mother. I suspect we are meant to think the mugger with the drug addict girl friend is the missing son but my money is on the guy living in Paris.
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Post by hoodylover on Mar 7, 2023 20:04:34 GMT
I’m still enjoying it, but I think Jess is thoroughly unlikeable. Even her own mother doesn’t seem over keen on her. Sunny is doing the heavy lifting with the murder enquiry and now he has personal issues at home to contend with. I think there will be an almighty row between the two of them before long. As to the murderer, they all seem guilty to me, but there’s something about the dying old rich man that I don’t care for.
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Post by Miranda on Mar 7, 2023 22:32:55 GMT
Hmm.... I think the drug addict may be Joseph but he must have had a tall dad. The guy in Paris has a mother that he doesn't get on with but he could be adopted. The rich guy could be Joseph's father as he has connections with youth clubs and Precious was very young when she got pregnant. Not sure she was even 16. When was she born? 1980-something?
As for Jess, I don't find her unlikeable but she does need to get her act together. I think she's a control freak who falls apart when she gets blind-sided by events. She's so used to coping and being in control that having that taken away has thrown her so far off-kilter that she can't think straight and can't make decisions. I also think her husband is punishing her for not needing him by keeping her in that state.
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Post by goodhelenstar on Mar 10, 2023 10:25:15 GMT
I've been rewatching the first two episodes to remind myself how the four suspects were introduced – my attention was taken up with the fallout from introducing Jessie as their new boss. A couple of things struck me:
The story begins nine months after Cassie's death, I think – Sunny's grief is of course to be expected and is part of the scene-setting to this new story, but to be absent-mindedly buying Cassie's coffee and spending hours by her grave seems a bit over the top, given that presumably they've been solving crimes in the interim. (But then, I was reminded of Happy Valley's Catherine spending hours by her daughter's grave, years after her death.)
Where are Sunny's daughters? He and Sal appear to be living together in her house, or maybe they're not officially living together and we only see his domestic life when he's there and not at home. I can't remember if it's the same house we saw them in together in the last series. (And of course continuity is not always perfect because of availability of filming location.)
Why did Karol lie to his mother about not having a girlfriend? On first viewing it wasn't clear who he was getting into bed with and I wondered if he had a boyfriend rather than a girlfriend, but we now know that's not the case and he is looking to have a baby with Elise, so why so cagey? Just not wanting parental interference?
I want Ebele's houseboat which, TARDIS-like, seems bigger on the inside!
The way the Paris-based characters slip in and out of English / Polish / French is very well done. Less convincing, for me, is Ian McEIlhinney's posh accent and some of his dialogue. I remember him as Owen McDonnell's corrupt ex-copper father in Irish drama Single Handed, and have only ever heard him with his native Irish accent so perhaps that's why I'm struggling with him in this.
If Kaz doesn't lay off the lollipops she's going to have trouble with that beautiful set of gnashers!
They keep making a point of how tiny the victim was – is that only because it was easier to shove her up the chimney, or is there some other significance, I wonder?
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Post by beverley61 on Mar 10, 2023 12:16:17 GMT
I think her height initially made them wonder if this was a much younger person but height is an identifying factor.
This week I think they'll have to link the French side, otherwise it will drag on.
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Post by Miranda on Mar 10, 2023 12:43:22 GMT
Certainly make it easier for people remember her.
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Post by beverley61 on Mar 14, 2023 19:12:54 GMT
Well last night felt like a slog. This is unfolding so slowly it was hard to stay awake. I'm not particularly liking the dynamics either.
Did the mother do it?
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Post by marion on Mar 15, 2023 10:01:08 GMT
I think the problem is there are so many awful characters (including the son, the mother) and the new DCI is just horrible, and Sunny has become very morose.
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Post by sootycat on Mar 15, 2023 12:05:18 GMT
Does the new DCI ever smile.
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Post by beverley61 on Mar 15, 2023 12:57:17 GMT
In real life the DCI would tell her line manager that her husband had had an affair and walked out and could she have a month off to sort things out and get her head straight. The police force would not hold that against her, she wouldn't lose her promotion by deferring the start date. So in reality she wouldn't have walked into that office in the middle of a personal crisis - but that's TV.
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Post by vicky on Mar 15, 2023 13:36:45 GMT
I think the problem is there are so many awful characters (including the son, the mother) and the new DCI is just horrible, and Sunny has become very morose. I have always thought that Sunny was in love with Cassie.
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Post by LoopyLobes on Mar 15, 2023 13:38:51 GMT
I went to work as normal after my ex announced out of the blue he was b*ggering off. I had to get my head around it before sharing the news with anyone. I was so concerned about his welfare and state of mind because it really wasn't the man we knew and loved, it really seemed as if he'd lost his mind. Anyway, that was me. I know most aren't like me. What I really did find weird with DCI's husband was his timing for telling her just as their children were getting ready to go off to school. I would have thought he'd wait until he and she were on their own.
I also find it very odd for Precious's mother going to see her body. Is that normal? So long dead and dissected by forensic people?
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Post by Miranda on Mar 15, 2023 18:21:28 GMT
I did enjoy it. In fact I'm having to fight the impulse to binge!
So now we know that the drug addict is Joseph and has called the killer from prison. Or that's how it looked. Everything is pointing to it being Lord Hume. Or at least, him being the father of Joseph. He is tall and would have the clout to get rid of any 'inconvenience' in his privileged life. But I don't think he and Joseph called the same person. He has a very old phone so it is likely that Joseph had the number.
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Post by hoodylover on Mar 15, 2023 22:06:45 GMT
Yes, I’m still enjoying it too. I think Sunny might be on the verge of starting an affair with his sympathetic colleague; or is he separated from Sal? I can’t remember. I did remember that there was once almost “a thing” between him and Cassie, that they decided against. If his feelings for her were still there, he wouldn’t get out ver her death quickly. I think Jess is right to be suspicious of Lord Hume.
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